[0762]

Now the Charlotteville riots + murder by 'white supremists' stokes up the criticism and angst against Trump and the way he has attracted populist movements. His sudden lack of proper condemnation of these 'loonies' beggars belief and the head of the Ku Klux Klan backing the president is just an insult to most Americans who really care about their country and the crass way that it is being governed!

[hibeejim21]

As much as it was great to see the KKK and their pals getting a good skelping,it was noticeable just how reticent that orange faced buffoon was to condemn them. And its understandable,they are part of his core support after all.

At the end of the day though he will sorely regret opening the Pandora's box that allowed these mutant halfwits to think they actually have a meaningful voice in society.

[hibeejim21]

He really can't find it in himself to show even the slightest bit of decency in response to this event in virginia.

Extraordinary.

[St Charles Owl]

As we often see in football there is generally blame to pass out to both sides of a violent event but this was one of those times when one side is so wrong and out of step with modern society that joint blame cannot be applied!!! Trump will not condemn these far right groups without feeling the need to blame those who rightly oppose everything they stand for!!! Very telling that the only tweet that has supported what he has said was from David Duke, past Grandmaster of the KKK!!!!

[0762]

The joint blame argument is still strenuously applied St Charles Owl. I listened to a New York woman/RW political backer on the bbc who was clearly pro Trump and vigorously applied the democratic right to hold a meeting, albeit a white supremist one, and then laying in to the 'left wing' interferences and misdemeanours etc - in other words, using the age old 'defence' of the use of any kind of violence to suit her/their right-wing argument. The technique never changes as I become wiser and older in observing this crass methodology of presenting a 'lame case' and I must emphasise this woman was so irritating that the bbc presenter even challenged her with factual information that dispelled some of her weak defences that supported her populist view of racist and xenophobic life in America.

[0762]

Trump now applying the joint blame argument and rightly being 'slaughtered' + losing lots n lots of allies in business etc who have finally ditched him and who should appear on the scene.............?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/obam...spartandhp

Obama's tweet/comment revered!!! Give this man the presidency, 'break all the rules' and return to some form of common decency USA!!!!! DO IT!!

[hibeejim21]

Trumps power base is increasingly a bunch of scum who have no valid place in society. That can not end well. Im scared for america at the moment with this ignoramus man child running the gig. And his ceaseless attempts at warmongering have me fearing for the world as a whole,this is not a good man. Not at all.

More importantly, Trump is unfit to be President. Surely no one can argue different now ffs ?

[St Charles Owl]

Oh but they can and they will argue it!!! His fan base conveniently haven't been anywhere near this latest topic and to be fair most of those who voted for him are not right wing zealots like those in Virginia this past weekend. Trump has this time been roundly criticized by both sides of the aisle and by the business community as well, to the point where he has shut down some of his think tank committees to stop any other business leaders quitting!!

His fan base firmly believe he will make America great again but they also think this will be done through the economical and taxation policies, and that may still be correct. I don't think any of them envisaged the way the whole administration has got bogged down in so many other areas that in the unlikely event he might do any good things with the economy they will either not get done or just get lost in all the other shite going on.

[0762]

Not enough policies and positive inroads and too much 'pantomine' St Charles Owl - the story of this awful US president who really should not be anywhere near the Oval Office!!

[hibeejim21]

Oh but they can and they will argue it!!!  His fan base conveniently haven't been anywhere near this latest topic and to be fair most of those who voted for him are not right wing zealots like those in Virginia this past weekend. Trump has this time been roundly criticized by both sides of the aisle and by the business community as well, to the point where he has shut down some of his think tank committees to stop any other business leaders quitting!!

His fan base firmly believe he will make America great again but they also think this will be done through the economical and taxation policies, and that may still be correct. I don't think any of them envisaged the way the whole administration has got bogged down in so many other areas that in the unlikely event he might do any good things with the economy they will either not get done or just get lost in all the other shite going on.

If the american's want to back trump and his quasi fascist policies then they are even stupider than I thought. Ultimately it will be them that suffer the brunt of his actions,just as it was his kind that caused their dissatisfaction in the first place.

America doesn't need to be "great" again. That the biggest lie that orange faced, snake oil salesman is selling, America IS great. Its him that's making it not great,by believing or at least endorsing the idea that anti-fascism or anti-racism is another side of the coin from fascism and racism. It's a stunning new low for the US and modern democracy