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Paul Manafort and Roger Stone can certainly expect pardons, both of them have been faithful servants to Trump even though it saw them go to jail! As regards him pardoning himself, that is being debated here in the media, most think he cannot do it as the constitution does address this somewhat, but it would likely end up in the SC and as we have seen today they will vote in a right wing manner these days.
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27-11-2020, 02:09
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(26-11-2020, 21:27)St Charles Owl Wrote: Paul Manafort and Roger Stone can certainly expect pardons, both of them have been faithful servants to Trump even though it saw them go to jail! As regards him pardoning himself, that is being debated here in the media, most think he cannot do it as the constitution does address this somewhat, but it would likely end up in the SC and as we have seen today they will vote in a right wing manner these days.
I think this speculated act of self-protection would really make a mockery of the whole US political system if he was allowed to "get away with it"! I would indeed expect the strength of the American constitution to "hold up" on something like this where an unscrupulous and criminal President could be allowed to "slip through the net" in this way. And oh how the American Supreme Court would lose all credibility and respect in the eyes of millions n millions of astounded American citizens if it somehow got embroiled in siding/condoning such criminality!!!! IMO A CASE OF SACK THEM ALL AND START AGAIN WITH HONEST/HONOURABLE JUDGES!!
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Honest honourable judges? Oh aye, the Upstate New York Mafia support loads, of those as do their mates elsewhere
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondo...d=msedgdhp
Finally "coming round" to political reality Mr Trump? However, he is still "spouting off" re "voting fraud on a grand scale" - absolute rubbish with no substance attached to the insinuations whatsoever! I've come to the conclusion that this is a political showman who displays this picture to his support base that he is not a loser although, in fact, he is indeed a loser of the US election whether he likes it or not. He really looks like he believes the shit that he utters, such is the highly questionable mental state of this failed US President who IMO lost all credibility a long time ago. It is a pity that a lotta American citizens didn't acknowledge that fact and sided against him although thankfully enough of them "saw the light" and finally "brought him to heel".
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28-11-2020, 12:01
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He's now saying Biden has to prove all his votes were legal.
You don't quite get this do you Mr. Trump? You're the one throwing the accusations around - it's up to you to prove they were illegal.
While you're at it - take a look at some of yours. I doubt you'll spot any difference what-so-ever apart from where X marks the spot, or the chads have been hanged.
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That man really is a stain on the office.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/bor...d=msedgdhp
This is a "good read" re the UK side of what IMO is the "axis of evil", the similarities re usurping a political party and trying to impose a totally different RW political ideology on GOP or the C&U Party are indeed enlightening. What I would give to see the UK side of this conspiracy finally "wiped off the political map" as well!!! IMO the country and society in general would benefit greatly in the long term.
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01-12-2020, 01:05
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Looking at the personal profile of Joe Biden's recently appointed Sec of State, Antony Blinken, and it certainly appears to be bad news for Johnson and his Brexit govt as this guy thinks the UK's handling of Brexit is a "dog's dinner", that it threatens peace in Northern Ireland, ruins young people's future and is the result of a very similar phenomenon to Marine Le Pen's xenophobia in France - OUCH!!!!! The truth hurts!! No matter how much "green friendly" orchestrations Johnson makes between now and COP26 in Glasgow next November , the "elephant in the room", as far as the US govt is concerned, is Brexit. The UK will no longer be the Atlantic bridge to Europe. Actually in a metaphor which sums up Britain's isolation, the bridge will be diverted past the UK to Brussels. Such a shame for Bodgit as we know how much he loves bridges eh lol!! The NYT described Blinken as a "defender of global alliances". He is about as far from the current truth-denying and sleekit sec of state, Pompeo, as Biden is from Trump. And when it comes to the "British Trump", as Trump previously referred to the PM, Biden and Blinken are not just on a different page but in a whole different book. Consider Blinken's description of Joe Biden's new presidency in three words - "leadership, cooperation and democracy". These are words supremely lacking from Johnson's last 12 months in power. Instead we have witnessed a chronic absence of leadership with dithering and delay on the pandemic, a failure to cooperate by aligning policy action with scientific advice and of course the very antithesis of democracy via centralisation and power grabs from both the regions of England and the devolved countries of the UK. Just ask any savvy Scottish citizen what we think of Johnson's attitude towards democracy given the emasculation of our devolved parliament through the Internal Market Bill and indeed our voice silenced throughout the whole Brexit process!
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02-12-2020, 18:00
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Now Trump apparently considering presidential pardons to issue to family members and his sleekit lawyer, Giuliani!!? Where does it all end with these people and what on earth do they have to hide considering they have not been indicted for a criminal activity by any law agency whatsoever!!?? The whole Trump dynasty and political activities really have become more and more unbearable as the clock "ticks down" to finally get them to f### out of the White House and back to reality and possibly some kinda state prosecution by certain law agencies who feel they have grounds to charge them or Trump.
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