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(26-07-2016, 22:59)Maddix Wrote: I'm building a bunker in the back garden and hiding all my money under the mattress, with the weapons, if Trump wins Cool

I'm hiding all my money under a postage stamp!
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I'd be more worried about the continual happenings within your proximity more than Trump. If Trump wins he's going to be screwing America, not Europe. He might get round to trying at some point, but there's far more pressing concerns on your side of the pond.

Trump's son ( who is pretty much running his campaign) asked John Kasich if he'd like to be in charge of domestic & foreign policy, while Trump is in charge of "Making America Great Again" He and his family are a group of grifter charlatans. It is scary to think he could win this, but someone else will primarily be pulling the strings which is what scares me. Who will be the Puppeteer?

The anti-Islam hysteria in America is unfounded, what is happening here is nothing like Europe, or in particular the UK. Muslims are by far a minority in America and they DO try to integrate despite this being a country of Christian zealots. I can't say I've witnessed the same during my 22 years living in England in fact I've witnessed the opposite and also fell victim to plenty of racism by a self-segregated community.
There's a cognitive bias in place, that anyone with anything critical to say about Islam is immediately admonished as "hateful" or that good old word that has now lost its power "racist". However any amount of scrutiny will clearly show what a shit shower religion as whole is creating across the globe.
Any pious person that, allows a minority to hi-jack their belief, radicalize it shouldn't be standing back with their hands up saying " Not me" The problem is inherent in the culture and that's where the issue needs to be tackled.
To elaborate a tad on why SA won't do anything, this strict wahhabism that became radicalised, is indigenous to Saudi Arabia.
To ask a Muslim to kill another Muslim at the behest of a western Infidel?

I strongly urge people to read about religion, especially Semitic religions and their metamorphosis through time.

Also, if outside the USA. Don't worry about Trump, at least not yet. Wink
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Vote Trump, Nuke Syria.
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Stateside,
Pity that Islam doesn't have a Pope. Discuss (!)
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(27-07-2016, 16:16)talkSAFT Wrote: Stateside,
Pity that Islam doesn't have a Pope. Discuss (!)

They did, he was/is called Muhammad. Laugh

Maybe a 'Pope' that's cool and fresh like Francis. Definitely not one like Alexander VI, or any others for that matter.
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(27-07-2016, 15:28)Statesideowl Wrote: I'd be more worried about the continual happenings within your proximity more than Trump. If Trump wins he's going to be screwing America, not Europe. He might get round to trying at some point, but there's far more pressing concerns on your side of the pond.

Trump's son ( who is pretty much running his campaign) asked John Kasich if he'd like to be in charge of domestic & foreign policy, while Trump is in charge of "Making America Great Again" He and his family are a group of grifter charlatans. It is scary to think he could win this, but someone else will primarily be pulling the strings which is what scares me. Who will be the Puppeteer?

The anti-Islam hysteria in America is unfounded, what is happening here is nothing like Europe, or in particular the UK. Muslims are by far a minority in America and they DO try to integrate despite this being a country of Christian zealots. I can't say I've witnessed the same during my 22 years living in England in fact I've witnessed the opposite and also fell victim to plenty of racism by a self-segregated community.
There's a cognitive bias in place, that anyone with anything critical to say about Islam is immediately admonished as "hateful" or that good old word that has now lost its power "racist". However any amount of scrutiny will clearly show what a shit shower religion as  whole is creating across the globe.
Any pious person that, allows a minority to hi-jack their belief, radicalize it shouldn't be standing back with their hands up saying " Not me" The problem is inherent in the culture and that's where the issue needs to be tackled.
To elaborate a tad on why SA won't do anything, this strict wahhabism that became radicalised, is indigenous to Saudi Arabia.
To ask a Muslim to kill another Muslim at the behest of a western Infidel?

I strongly urge people to read about religion, especially Semitic religions and their metamorphosis through time.

Also, if outside the USA. Don't worry about Trump, at least not yet. Wink

Completely agree with this. The US really doesn't have a Muslim problem like Trump is continually insinuating. There will always be extremists that present a problem for any country but the "breeding grounds" of extremism like you see in Belgium, France and to a lesser degree the UK do not really exist over here. I saw a news story last night where the Muslim community in LA held a protest and prayer session to oppose the Jihadis and all they stand for under the Muslim banner. It was well covered and joined by other faiths from what I could see. That has to start to happen in Europe if we are ever going to combat the rhetoric and brainwashing that goes on, bomb will not achieve that ultimately.

As regards Trump, I still don't think he will win the election. There shouldn't be a minority or woman in the US who should vote for him after what he has said about just about all of them at some point. The attack ads on him must be so easy to put together, doesn't even need a voice over, just let him do the talking!!!
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This is the thing about Trump. he's pretty much offended every demographic yet still remains popular. For whatever reason, he has a small group of Latino supporters after all he's said about them, a group of women, despite the fluent chauvinistic bilge he utters.

Everything he says is often fact checked and debunked by credible sources, yet so many do not seem to care? Down in the southern states his mentality appeals to people, as this is a place where white privilege exists.

I suppose we have to hold our breath and continue to watch the Circus.

I think I caught a brief part of the news covering the Muslims holding prayer/vigil. That was a great example of truly pious people, uncorrupted. I've met a few true Christians out here whom are all loving, sadly they are oh so few and far between though.
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(27-07-2016, 23:34)Statesideowl Wrote: This is the thing about Trump. he's pretty much offended every demographic yet still remains popular. For whatever reason, he has a small group of Latino supporters after all he's said about them, a group of women, despite the fluent chauvinistic bilge he utters.

Everything he says is often fact checked and debunked by credible sources, yet so many do not seem to care? Down in the southern states his mentality appeals to people, as this is a place where white privilege exists.

I suppose we have to hold our breath and continue to watch the Circus.

I think I caught a brief part of the news covering the Muslims holding prayer/vigil. That was a great example of truly pious people, uncorrupted. I've met a few true Christians out here whom are all loving, sadly they are oh so few and far between though.

There is still one group he has yet to offend - white men wearing wife beater t-shirts, cigarettes stuck up their shoulder high sleeve who are drinking a Bud while driving a pick up truck, with a confederate flag in the back window, to the next NASCAR race!!!! Essentially your average white male inhabitant of the southern states!!!!

Sure I am being very generalistic, but it's amazing how he can verbally abuse people and still retain popularity, probably proves that most republicans will simply follow whoever gets put in front of them!!
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(27-07-2016, 16:44)Statesideowl Wrote:
(27-07-2016, 16:16)talkSAFT Wrote: Stateside,
Pity that Islam doesn't have a Pope.  Discuss (!)

They did, he was/is called Muhammad. Laugh

Maybe a 'Pope' that's cool and fresh like Francis. Definitely not one like Alexander VI, or any others for that matter.

I meant a living voice of Islam who they all listened to, who would "interpret" the Koran to the masses. And he would have the intelligence to "interpret" it in a peaceful way. (Currently Jihadis interpret it how they want to.)
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