[Trusevich]

We haven't yet seen exactly how vulgar they are willing to be. From past experience it seems there is no limit.

[hibeejim21]

That's a relief,murray or BDO can hire one of them, take it to the supreme court and get it overturned no bother. 

They'll have no need to 'hire one of them'. Any competent lawyer would be able to pish right through that tissue of a ruling. Even one that currently works for them.

 We should be hearing of an appeal shortly then. Until then court of sessions ruling counts. 

[Trusevich]

Counts for what?

Does the BDO have to transfer the outstanding funds today, then HMRC transfer it all back to BDO the day they appeal?

[edgie]

So may inaccuracy’s over last 3 days mostly coming from Rangers fans funnily

 
Freds first
 
“The debt was 27 million Fred How much was Hearts?”
Rangers full debt figure as per the bdo report was  140m
Taking off the tickitus amount still leaves over 110 million
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/revealed-the-276-victims-owed-cash-1118614
 
now trus
o dear lots
 
first “Lord Nimmo Smith's independent enquiry found there was no sporting advantage. That's the end of it.”
Correct LNS did say this but you have conveniently forgot/ignored/denied the preface to that with the statement “as they (EBTs) are legal, therefor available to all clubs there was no sporting advantage”. Now we know this was incorrect, and NO club could legally use the; therefor an advantage was obtained.
 
Second
“There's no evidence to support the idea that Rangers couldn't have afforded those players without using EBTs”
Rangers where a loss making organisation that from 2008 the bank ran trying to cut losses the extra 3 or 4 million per annum paying players the same take home would not have been allowed simple. So Rangers simply could not afford it MIH was in dire financial straits at this time so balance transfers would not be allowed.
 
Third
“And let's not forget that using EBTs wasn't illegal. It was a tax avoidance scheme, not tax evasion”
Ok the obvious fact that they have been deemed illegal on Wednesday as per the laws of the time. That HMRC have always considered them to be “an artificial construct” so tax evasion.
That other companies have been done long before rangers. So we have a legal definition that they were tax EVASION
 
 
Charles & others
 
“The totals over a 10 year period only amounted to 47m and this included a number of non-playing staff including Murray himself, so I would guess that the "sporting" aspect of this only amounted to 2-3m per season anyway and that is hardly likely to be enough to provide a sporting advantage to the degree that some are claiming”
 
Lets take the 2.5 million paid out as a figure to clear 2.5 million a 40 % tax payers would have to earn over 5 million a year
I will explain each one pays 40% tax and 12% national insurance so only take home 48% of their top line or 5.2 million. At times during the period ta higher rate of tax was imposed of 45 % so it could have been even higher
On top of that the company has to pay 13.8% national insurance or another 720k
So we have a grand total of 5.92 million, a huge amount to a company losing money and around 20 to 25% of the total wages of the club at the time. So sorry Charles that’s a huge advantage.
 
 
 
El Car
“The balance sheet debt was being paid down, reducing by about £1m a year”
Ahh the Paul Murray lie, sorry but Rangers audited full accounts show that in the final 4 years of David Murrays ownership NET debt actually went up from 27.5 million in the 07 accounts to 32.8m in the final accounts 2011
I suggest you actually read the accounts before making a statement like that.
Yes bank debt was going down other debt was going up.
 
So the facts contradict almost all defences against stripping titles.
Apart from the obvious you cant do it to us cause we are the people

[Trusevich]

Thought we were rid of this slevering xxxx? Didn't he say, quite categorically, that he'd never ever sign up to this forum?

Straight on the ignore list he goes. For his own benefit.

[Fredstersafool]

Aye put him on ignore because he's pretty knowledgeable Trus just a pity you signed up to this forum as yer the biggest arsehole on it.

Keep posting Edgie yer truth hurts.

[Trusevich]

It's a particular form of truth Fred. You should recognise it. It comes from reading and believing only what you want to, then regurgitating it as genuine 100% fact.

[supercooper]

So the tube couldn't keep away, thank xxxx for ignore.

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Aye put him on ignore because he's pretty knowledgeable Trus just a pity you signed up to this forum as yer the biggest arsehole on it.

Keep posting Edgie yer truth hurts.

Can hear you gargling now Fred.

[Fredstersafool]

So the accounts that he's getting his info form are lies??

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Oh anythinn that gets you lot hurting gets me gargling Coop,yer pain is there for all to see.

[Trusevich]

LOL, Fred's getting his knee-pads and mouth-wash out already.