[ritchiebaby]

Words fail me.

[Lord Snooty]

Just seen the goals. Red card didn't help matters, did it. League table don't look good either.

[0762]

Some quick passing comments from me after another sham of a match - Hibs will be relegated based on current observation!! A keeper who can’t make a save who was clearly not good enough (no recognisable "presence"/stature at all!!) from his first intro to the team - Gray absolutely culpable in not recognising this weakness as he stupidly picks him in every game as though something is gonna change!!??? And not enough goals going in at the other end!! No players of any stature, no leaders!!! Gray training them for months and yet they are a defensive sham with no backbone whatsoever - a tendency to capitulate under pressure and a woeful subs' bench plus Gray making the same errors on substitutions thereby weakening the team late on in almost every match!!! What happened to him??? Is he "out of his depth"??? If relegation gets rid of the Gordons then I'll take it now as too much corporate activities and selling the "product" to the Hibs fans for far to long while shamelessly acting as though there is not a football crisis at the club - just study Hibs website activities to realise how the very soul of our football club has been ripped away in a Scottish football league that isn't exactly that great a standard anyway!!
Immediate action required in my humble opinion - by someone with proper authority and footie nous, and most importantly, by someone who has a true interest and love for Hibernian FC. Is it also an appropriate moment to have a serious conversation with Bill Foley (he is an interested benefactor after all!!) who has been absolutely correct in previous critical comments re the way Hibs CE, Ben Kensell, and the Gordon family, have handled the whole footie setup from the summer onwards???? Action please or this team is definitely facing relegation!!!
Additional side comment: The refereeing in this match, from start to finish, was absolutely dreadful!! I detest talking about Scottish referees for various reasons, but this particular refereeing display really raises concern how such a terribly inadequate referee can be allowed to officiate a football match at an expected high level in the top league of the SPFL - baffling and frustrating to watch this kinda "spoiler" affecting another game!!

[ritchiebaby]

Hibs can't hold a lead with 11 players, never mind 10. Again a stupid ordering-off and pressing the self-destruct button.

And what on earth was Bursik doing out near the penalty spot for the final goal? He must be dropped and so must Miller. Why can't SDG see what the rest of us can see?

[BouncingHibees]

We've been atrocious for years now, all the talk about the process but we are currently going nowhere with zero progress on the pitch, David Gray won't last until Christmas, shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place.

[0762]

We've been atrocious for years now, all the talk about the process but we are currently going nowhere with zero progress on the pitch, David Gray won't last until Christmas, shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place.

Re David Gray, one must remove the emotional "legend" element regarding his tenure "at the helm". I think he has been compromised from the very beginning. However, my perception of SDG is that he was never an individual who wanted to be a manager at HFC. Very good managers "want to be managers" of football clubs and that is normally evident in the way these guys progress their careers and enhance their skills in the process. David Gray's record is dreadful and the damning thing about this record is he keeps making the same mistakes and choosing certain players who shouldn't even be in Hibs player squad at all - awful players and that includes the goalkeeper! He also trained these guys for months at EMTC and professed "things are getting better"??? Not so!! I'd love to know who made the final decision to sign the goalie, Bursik, because that action is totally unsatisfactory and highly questionable as any fool could quickly see, within weeks, he is a poor goalkeeper with very little "presence" about him - not Hibs required standard at all! Big Ross Laidlaw, an ex-Hibee at Ross County, would've been a far more logical signing than this lad, as well as Mitov who I would've expected Hibs to at least try to seriously move for such a decent Bulgarian international goalie!! What also strikes me about the Gordon family's time at HFC (as well as Ben Kensell btw!) is how quickly, on the "football front" (not the obsessive "corporate" side of things!), the Hibs 1st team has been alarmingly run down from an average/accountable group of players to the present day sham "under their watch". I perceived the "dilution" of HSL shares (and other affected shareholders like myself!) as highly questionable and unnecessary when announced at the last AGM earlier on this year. It's another strand of disaffection I have with the Gordons and Kensell as I believe a Hibs fans' presence on the shareholding side of things is a form of existential protection as debated many years ago by Sir Tom Farmer and Rod Petrie. Regarding the football side of things and SDG, I think there is a very thin "ray of hope" leading up to the sold out derby match at ER Stadium whereby a precious win and three pts would be hugely welcome at this time. Our opponents have a Euro match on Thursday and that match commitment must be seized upon by the Hibs manager to impose a solid initiative on all the players to the effect that "we can win this match v a potentially leg-weary team". My only problem with SDG is the fact I don't think he is capable of setting up (and motivating-instructing players!!) this kind of strategy in fully focusing on the opposition from Thursday to the match day on Sunday. I just hope he proves me wrong.

[hibeejim21]

As said the other week have no idea what we are trying to do in an attacking sense , we only really looked a threat with set pieces.

Once again the boss's subs looked suspect. He struggles to manage games the way a more experienced manager would. WTF was Newell up to ? Campbell, Miller and Bursic are nowhere near what we need. I feel sorry for SDG because he was very close to what would have been a big win for him and again the players mentality and concentration fucked it up.

The derby game is massive now.

[BouncingHibees]

On Bursik apparently we signed him after missing out on our main target Mitov. We did approach Mitov but he told us he wasn't interested in coming here and had his eyes firmly on Aberdeen.

HSL where against the share issue like yourself and where correct in there judgement even with all the fan backlash at that time directed towards them.

Onto the Derby, it'll be a tight game with the likely outcome a 1 nil to the maroon buggers. I'd like to be more positive but there's zero signs we will win many matches this season.

[ritchiebaby]

To be honest a 0-1 loss against the Jambos is being positive.

[0762]

The default position on this type of derby match is attune to another full house at home with a massive Hibs support present and Hibs beaten AGAIN!! They rarely perform at home in front of such a great backing of home fans in a sell out match - absolutely bizarre and it really is high time Hibs "broke the mould" and started winning these big, important matches!! Hibs home winning record is generally dreadful - has been for years!! And last year I sent a letter of complaint to Hibs CE asking for some kind of formal investigation into Hibs dreadful home record (their winning percentage is under 30% since modernisation/final upgrade of the ER stadium in 2010!!). As a Hibs shareholder, I requested that a reputable football consultant be brought in to study and resolve such a truly ridiculous home statistic. The home winning stat re the Yams is a joke as well, but it's the same v other Scot Prem teams like eg St Johnstone - totally unacceptable!! Kensell never even replied to my letter and that sums him up in my humble opinion! If I took over the club tomorrow, he'd be the "first oot the door" and I would personally show him the front door and explain why he is leaving.