[Imre varadi]

To Charlie's post ..he'll keep picking Windass and he'll keep missing chances which Ugbo and Lowe would probably score ..got to get Ugbo up to speed for any chance of serving this season !!

[Statesideowl]

DR "Today, the ref decided the game again"

He's not happy either, last week then this. It's an absolute disgrace. It's going to happen game after game after game though.

[Imre varadi]

It was also handball the second goal ...ffs

[Imre varadi]

There's an argument for having var in this league ..we all know it spoils the game but the officials are so corrupt and useless I think it's needed !

[Statesideowl]

What an absolute shitshow of corruption

[Imre varadi]

Rugby isn't perfect and there have been some very corrupt calls of late over the last few seasons but having a tmo watch a video in the stand and actually comunícate with the ref on the field that can be heard by the fans is the way forward ! I wonder why they never installed this idea in football ...yep exactly!!!!that's exactly why they didn't go down the same path ...I can just imagine now the ref saying back to the tmo on a live speaker that aren't man city liverpool etc meant to get the decision!!!

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To the game of football and Wednesday ..beadle needs to be dropped he's not commanding his area when all these scrambles are happening fouls or not Charles the few cup games he's played has been better ...he should get a chance like I keep saying Charles is ours not Brighton's so I have no loyalty to him as such ! Where's hammer by the way ? He was only supposed to be out for a few weeks ...he must have found something better todo with chabolah ffs

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The second goal is actually worse than the penalty he looked like a basketball player aaaasRrrrrrrggghhhh!!!!

[Statesideowl]

It's absolutely incredible how Luton got away with two handballs. One in their area by McGuiness and Morris handled before scoring just like QPR did last week!!!

Wednesday players tried to protest the handball and the ref waved it away yet when Luton players protested against Bernard there was no hesitation by the referee whatsoever.
The referee wasn't even in a good enough position to determine what happened, he reacted to Lutons players and fans like the stooge he is and gave a red card penalty. Fking hack that he is.

The replay from behind the goal shows the ball hitting the back of Morris' right hand then dropping nicely to volley in. And that's after it hit their number 6's (McGuiness again!!)hand on its way to him!!!
It gets worse the more you see these decisions played back.

The high boot on Windass too.
It's simply not a coincidence. These calls are never made in our favour, only against us.

After the blatant cheating in favour of QPR a lot more fans have cottoned on to the EFL.
To say there's no corruption or that we're not on the end of ceaseless EFL match manipulation shows a level of cluelessness.
It's every week with game changing decisions that benefit the opposition. The cheating is entirely visible, only a fool can miss it!!

Commentary team sees it. Danny Rohl sees it. Most fans can now see it, thank God.

"When I looked to our box and we had a corner and two times Di’Shon (Bernard) goes down and there's nothing, it's a little bit hard to take"

"The players on the pitch should decide the game and not somebody else."
Danny Rohl

How SCO can believe the ref was worse for Luton is mind boggling there's no way he's watching the same games. New glasses are a necessity.

Five games in a row with influential decisions going the way of our opposition?? No terrible decisions against any of our opponents??
QPR goal last week was unmistakable cheating, follow that up with more officiating that denies us a fair penalty yet awards Luton a sketchy one.
If we're talking about 'flicking' limbs that's exactly what McGuiness did , except he wasn't off balance, so again the referee judged UNFAIRLY against us which is no coincidence.

Not only that, there's an irrefutable handball for the second

I'm already feeling despondent about this season. We have to play every game against 12 or 13 men.
Absolutely out of control corruption so far and we've only played 6 games.

I'm not just talking about a bad decision here and there. I'm pointing directly to years of focused fkkery by the EFL Stooges.

Ward visibly changed the way he officiated after our goal.
That is enough by itself but the penalty and then the handball by Luton just like QPR to score.
Disgraceful level of match influencing.

[Owlkev71]

Wonder if the EFL will fine/suspend DR for blaming the officials, although he didn't mention them by name.

61 games and counting without a penalty being awarded, just 12 off the British record, currently held by Port Vale (73)

[Imre varadi]

As predicted bottom.3 ...here we go another season looking up and chasing !

[St Charles Owl]

How SCO can believe the ref was worse for Luton is mind boggling there's no way he's watching the same games. New glasses are a necessity.

The ref was awful yesterday, and yes the Luton fans were pissed with him for the decisions he didn't give them during the game. Neither of their goals would have stood if like Imre said we had VAR, the ref got both of those wrong. But football has been like that for ever, we have sat and debated ref decisions for ever and we have had some refs that we hate reffing our game for ever!! Thats why forums like this exist, its to debate, to bitch about things that don't go our way and to talk about the times when we win. I accept some bias, bias is built into and through experience learnt by all of us, I accept some refs are crap as has always been the case, thats what we saw yesterday.

What I completely disagree with and what has crept into everything we do these days is that there is some sort of conspiracy behind these decisions, that someone or something is deliberately doing things to deliberately hurt us and only us. Oh woe is me, someone is out to get us, the EFL want to destroy us, the refs are deliberately making bad decision against us etc etc. Its complete bullshit. If this were true we wouldn't have stayed up last season, we wouldn't have been promoted the previous one and the points deduction would have been worse and not reduced.

Deflection of blame away from our weaknesses, from our failings, from our state as a club, from the decisions we make and from the crap we have put on the pitch for a lot of the last 20 years is not the fault of the EFL or the refs or the bloody tooth fairy and aliens, its down to the players, managers and the running of the club pure and simple!! This conspiracy theory that football is against us is there to just hide from admitting and acknowledging our failings, a way to deflect the blame off of us as a club when in reality we are the ones getting it wrong!! We need to do better, we need to recognise where we are weak, we need to get off the floor and do things that improve us, simply blaming everyone else as being out to get us is just plain lazy and stupid!!!