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Smith must have known he was risking the sack with those comments 0762. Starmer and corbyn are going around saying everyone is united in the shadow government on brexit policy and he is talking about something completely different to the guardian. Thats just politics.
That said i tend to agree with smith in a referendum on the final deal. But would it be practical ? I don't know.
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Now many British firms/companies asking for a 5 year brexit transition! Talk about 'seeing the light' eh! Just don't bother with brexit FFS or have another referendum that will 'right a wrong' and start realising it was a huge mistake with a Little England/Little Britain mentality attached to it - never considered the 'bigger picture' and massive negative repercussions to the country.
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27-03-2018, 13:54
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The shit is well and truly hitting the fan now with the Cambridge analytica stuff. The tories are up to the their necks in this too.
This has gone way beyond propaganda and has absolutely subverted UK democracy. putin/bannon/breitbart/farage/banks/ on one side and bojo/gove/Cummings/Parkinson (mays secretary) on the other AND in between them and working for both Cambridge analytica,aggregate IQ and chris wylie.
Wylie is in the commons right now admitting that vote leave have cheated and swayed the result. This involves corporation corruption, broken data regulations and has breached the privacy of millions. This is also about the manipulation of elections and politics by the powerful few who are in it for nothing more than financial and political gain.
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I'm at a loss as to the big fuss made about Facebook passing/selling users' data to Cambridge Analytica. Any information I post on Facebook (profile/photos/likes/quizzes, etc) becomes their intellectual property, according to their rules. Basically they can do what they like with it as we have handed over ownership of our views to them. This is of great value to firms like Cambridge Analytica who can then give interested parties a list of contacts who think they same way as they do. I get lots of advertising offers on my FB page from organisations who think they can influence me to buy their goods. NO CHANCE!
It's a modern take on the Labour and Tory Press barons who used their influence to garner votes for their parties. Much more basic back then with no contact names, but still the same principle.
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28-03-2018, 13:47
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Well if you cheat in eg the Olympics and get caught, you don't receive or own the medal any more. The rules on the UK political front, particularly Tory, is that this ethos does not apply. I watched and listened to the bbc's PM Questions and just 'switched it off' after observing the contemptuous way that Mrs May has tried to 'sweep the critical issues under the carpet' - I've used the word 'shameless' regularly since 2014 when applied to unionist politicians and that continues to this day as I observe this crass practice of lies and deception being racked up even higher than the worst days of Tony Blair and Daphne Broon!! Absolutely shameless and there is no hope for this country with these 'decepticons' in charge - a disgrace! What baffles me is how passive the UK population has been to brexit being incompetently brokered and the steady drip, drip, drip of revelations re the undemocratic way it has come about. The political suppression of our population is nothing short of amazing and it feels like we are 'sleepwalking' into an abyss with no return.
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28-03-2018, 17:56
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Re the UK PM, Mrs May, I gather she is visiting Scotland tomorrow to sell the ntion of the eventual introduction of brexit to the Scottish population. Who the f### is she actually gonna visit up here, a country where her political party is frowned upon and opposition to brexit has increased much more than the 2016 vote (reckoned to be >70%)? Will it be another one of these Tory stage managed jobs with their cheer leaders and sycophants to support her! I've previously observed this insincere, false shit in Edinburgh when David Cameron did not want to speak to the ordinary Scottish voter 'on the street' - so fake and insincere and no wonder there is a significant proportion of the Scot populace who want a minimum of home rule/devomax for Scotland. She will come to Scotland, just like the last gen election, and spout off again about the strength of the union and better together - lost her majority last year and trying to 'play the same card' when her political party's current standing is even worse than last year and we all know why that is!! Just tell her to GTF - EVERY REGION IN SCOTLAND VOTED AGAINST BREXIT!
