[St Charles Owl]

We are either heading for a Tory/DUP coalition or another election.

Interesting use of the word "we".  Haven't you got your own orangeman in power to worry about?

I might no longer reside in Britain but you can't take the British out of me!!! Ironically I am currently in the position of not being able to vote in the UK nor here in the US, so not much I can do about Donald!!

[0762]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40366646

So it transpires that there are 600 tower blocks that are potentially 'kitted out' with this inflammable cladding. Also the leader of Kensington and Chelsea Council resigns amidst allegations that the Tory govt had a 'hand' in it! Perhaps the current PM, May, should seriously consider her untenable position as well!!

[hibeejim21]

They have retracted that to 3.....but Camden alone are taking down 5. But remember that Kensington ran a 15 million surplus,i doubt very much many other areas can say the same.

This gov are the same people who cant crack a deal with 10 of their 'friends' in the DUP but are expecting to do a favourable deal with the EU. Disaster and embarrassment await.

In the house yesterday it was clear that "the tide had turned" and a resurgent Jeremy corbyn was causing complete meltdown on the opposite benches as the realisation dawned on them that they are sitting ducks now. Said it before labour need only sit back and wait now,and try for once not to do anything stupid and this government will fall to bits before too long.

[St Charles Owl]

That last paragraph is so true but take that scenario over here in the last election. Trump throughout the campaign said stupid things, embarrassing clips or stories were everywhere and the polls had him way behind almost throughout. Clinton sat back, she let this all play out, she didn't respond to much of what Trump was doing and she stuck to her policies however boring that played out on tv. In the end that policy didn't work, she didn't lose solely because of that but certainly in the aftermath it was suggested that her sitting back and letting Trump be Trump didn't have the effect they thought it would have and its one of the reasons she isn't President.

Corbyn does need to make sure that Labour and in particular himself, make no mistakes, don't speak if you don't know the answer to a question and completely stick to facts, but at the same time he has to stay on the front foot whenever he can or else the public will move on in their own way, which is usually apathy!! If there is one thing we should learn from Trump, its that sound bites and short strong statements can work with the modern electorate!! Its a fine line he needs to tread, but if he does it well then the Tories will have to reconsider both May's and the party's position either on topics or even on their ability to govern. I still think we will likely see another election fairly soon.

[hibeejim21]

Good points,but I think trump on the election trail v a tory gov in office but not "in power" are different gravy.

I think the tories will try and bail on brexit very soon,possibly via an election or a leadership battle. Even the chancellor is saying leaving the EU has no benefits. Its like a game of pass the parcel....labour should resist the temptation to grasp power and let the tories own this mess....born from camerons fear of his back benches and ukip.

And then labour will romp home,probably with corbyns successor. I see him more as a stalwart returning the party to where it should be rather than pm. But fair play to him having the cojones to 'reset' labour at this key time.

[0762]

Enter David Milliband at some point Jim?

[St Charles Owl]

Is the UK still able to reverse Article 50 and if so how far down the line can we get before it becomes irreversible?

[ritchiebaby]

From what I have read, the UK is still a member of the EU until 29 March 2019, or later if an extension period for negotiations is agreed between the EU and the UK. Theoretically, we can then apply to rejoin under Article 49, but I'm sure we can't withdraw Article 50.

BUT it's never been done before, so who really knows?

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Good points,but I think trump on the election trail v a tory gov in office but not "in power" are different gravy.

I think the tories will try and bail on brexit very soon,possibly via an election or a leadership battle. Even the chancellor is saying leaving the EU has no benefits. Its like a game of pass the parcel....labour should resist the temptation to grasp power and let the tories own this mess....born from camerons fear of his back benches and ukip.

And then labour will romp home,probably with corbyns successor. I see him more as a stalwart returning the party to where it should be rather than pm. But fair play to him having the cojones to 'reset' labour at this key time.

I'm inclined to think Labour will stick with Corbyn. Personally I think he's just too "nice", but he's got his teeth into the fallout from the Grenfell Tower disaster and I don't think he'll let go, so let's see how it goes over the next few weeks. David Milliband would be a backward step, because many Labour voters have now followed a different direction and like what they see. They won't want a "smoothie" like Milliband.

[hibeejim21]

Enter David Milliband at some point Jim?

Actually I hope not mate. I think corbyn deserves his chance to shape labour going forward.

If anyone will replace him it will be keir starmer,a guy who is from the blairite section,but is admired by the left wing and corbyn in particular.

[hibeejim21]

Is the UK still able to reverse Article 50 and if so how far down the line can we get before it becomes irreversible?

I think we may well have passed that point SCO. Hammond seems to at least realise we are looking down the line at economic meltdown and seems genuinely worried.

The rest are just waiting for the pieces to fall and make their move. It really is scandalous.