European Union Referendum - In or Out??

0762 · (This post was last modified: 15-02-2018, 00:31 by 0762.)

I personally hope it 'kills off' the Tory party, politically speaking, for the next 30 years after the 'collateral damage' really 'sinks in' to millions of people in this country - only we could be at a 'point of no return' where all these shameless b####### like Johnson, Farage, Gove, and many others, will 'shrink away' into the background after the biggest deception in UK economic and political history! It is mind boggling that this brexit scenario is not being challenged seriously enough across a broad spectrum of politicians and a huge protest representation of a population that appears to be impassive to such an impending threat!

**spireitematt** · 19-02-2018, 19:37

Looks like a General Election is looming with the Tories reviewing tuition fees and the right wing newspapers smearing Labour.

0762 · (This post was last modified: 20-02-2018, 01:14 by 0762.)

I just listened to the toerag Minister of State for Universities, Sam Gyimah, on bbc Newsnight discussing the latest reform so soon after the previous one, and the guy was clearly a 'slaver' of the highest order and eventually dismissed 'out of hand' with contempt by the bbc presenter, Emily Maitliss, and rightly so. These people are utterly shameless, embarrassing and totally unimpressive with the shit they utter and with no substance in their reasoning!!

hibeejim21 · 21-02-2018, 00:49

Who would have thunk that all that tripe about corbyn being an informant for a czech spy was actually another cheap smear from the right wing press ? Totally debunked today,and as per not a hint of an apology. He even had to get his lawyer to get some tory MP to take something slanderous about him taken off twitter, truly pitiful stuff from dace,murdoch and co.

Elsewhere corbyn comes out in favour of the UK being part of a customs union/agreement. An opposite stance to may's,and maybe a small sign labour is moving more towards the softest of brexits.

**spireitematt** · 21-02-2018, 02:11

(21-02-2018, 00:49)hibeejim21 Wrote: Who would have thunk that all that tripe about corbyn being an informant for a czech spy was actually another cheap smear from the right wing press ? Totally debunked today,and as per not a hint of an apology. He even had to get his lawyer to get some tory MP to take something slanderous about him taken off twitter, truly pitiful stuff from dace,murdoch and co.

Elsewhere corbyn comes out in favour of the UK being part of a customs union/agreement. An opposite stance to may's,and maybe a small sign labour is moving more towards the softest of brexits.

Be interesting to see if its brought up at PMQs.

Labour manifesto last year stated that if Labour won the election they would have stayed in the Single Market and Customs Union for a transition period.

0762 · (This post was last modified: 22-02-2018, 00:18 by 0762.)

And in PMQs, the PM tries a subtle dig at Corbyn with reference to taking cheques/Czechs and Corbyn yawning in total disinterest. This could well be the start of another character assassination assault by the RT press/media AGAIN!! I hope the majority of our voting population wizens up to this 'game' that's being played by the Murdoch press, and others, but I'm not 'holding my breath' in anticipation - too many dimwits in this country as we've discovered when it comes to brexit but good to see the Tory party hopefully fragment soon with the latest shambles involving 62 protesting Tory brexit MPs incl a number of Scottish toerags who have hopefully damaged colonel Davidson up here in Scotland even more than her current demise from a deceptively revered position last year!! Oh how times have changed for the 'conning colonel' eh and I'm delighted to see it!

**spireitematt** · 22-02-2018, 01:48

(22-02-2018, 00:17)0762 Wrote: And in PMQs, the PM tries a subtle dig at Corbyn with reference to taking cheques/Czechs and Corbyn yawning in total disinterest. This could well be the start of another character assassination assault by the RT press/media AGAIN!! I hope the majority of our voting population wizens up to this 'game' that's being played by the Murdoch press, and others, but I'm not 'holding my breath' in anticipation - too many dimwits in this country as we've discovered when it comes to brexit but good to see the Tory party hopefully fragment soon with the latest shambles involving 62 protesting Tory brexit MPs incl a number of Scottish toerags who have hopefully damaged colonel Davidson up here in Scotland even more than her current demise from a deceptively revered position last year!! Oh how times have changed for the 'conning colonel' eh and I'm delighted to see it!

Not the first time these smears have happened 0762

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinoviev_letter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wil...y_theories

0762 · 22-02-2018, 12:54

Aye! The press are always trying to 'dig up political dirt' spriteitmatt in this wonderful democratic country that we live in with the majority of the press/media also having an unhealthy effect on the fortunes of one political party and no universal contribution as it really should be!

hibeejim21 · (This post was last modified: 22-02-2018, 17:03 by hibeejim21.)

If we are going to call people traitors then what was priti patel doing in Israel,and what was boris doing with members of Russian intelligence?

Corbyn should go the legal route with this, calling someone a traitor without any proof is a pretty serious thing to do. It's all very well for the tories to bang on about press freedoms but most of the press in the UK is very much right wing and agenda driven.

Andrew neill is no fan of corbyn but as he pointed out yesterday on the bbc, its extremely dangerous for our democracy to allow people to be slandered without proof to that degree just because we don't like their politics.

0762 · 23-02-2018, 00:21

It's the equivalent of Fox News antics 'across the pond' with a set narrow agenda.