[talkSAFT]

It amazes me that some of us are happy just to be in the Premier league. As a football fan and a decent player in my time I like us to actually play nice, attacking football. I am a football lover and like to see the game played as it should be played, to try and beat the opposition......... Maybe I have it all wrong.

That baffles me, as well, Worldclass. A number of posters are just simply happy to finish 17th each season (as if that's the Holy Grail). They even want to put "B" teams into Cup matches in case it interferes with next week's League match against fellow strugglers.
Football was played years and years before any League was thought up, and the idea was to outplay and to attack and to win.
I'm assuming the "We'm Premier - Yow'm Championship" people have never actually played any competitive football. The game itself is far bigger than petty one-upmanship.