[theo_luddite]

Wherever I've turned up in the industrial lubes for manufacturing business over the last 40+ years when it comes to anything aerospace/military, you eventually end up in the military side of the divide. In some cases it's just outright military (most here might now be, ahem, privatised these days but they have all the same staff and way of working from former HM Gov ownership).

Anything they make that has a sell by or use by date on it will ultimately go in one of two directions. It's not far from the Supermarket model. If it's safe to dismantle/scrap/reuse it will be. If it isn't, it will be fired at someone, somewhere even if we don't care who we sell it to. We just need to rattle the cages of a few of those Johnny Forriner politicians somewhere and they'll probably go along with it or be on the receiving end of it. (Not just us that do this by the way).

Along with a few examples of the fancy new stuff that has a camera on board that makes everything look "oh so clinical" to make us feel good, when the reality is, it flattens everything in it's path and a fair distance around. The old stuff following it in is even worse.

You think the Ruskies are any different?

They all love to see their "defence toys" in action. Unfortunately, far too may of the fools in charge of the "defence toys" (Ruskie or otherwise) haven't a clue what a military target looks like, so anything big and tall will do. Which equates to where a lot of the me's and you's live, as you may have noticed in Ukraine.

The long rows of semi's in the suburbs hasn't been off limit's to the Ruskies this time either. Far easier to raid, loot, rape and pillage when you don't have to run up 20 flights of stairs and turn up too knackered to ask for a cup of tea let alone tell someone to get their kit off at gun point while listening for the whistle of an incoming passed it's sell by date missile from your (so called) mates.