[hibeejim21]

If Starmer had put a more professional spin on what corbyn was offering and tidied things up I would likely have voted for him. But not now.

Another none answer along the lines of "The Tories would have put up more of a fight if Labour had an 80 seat majority and were throwing money around to their mates like blokes with no hands." All while being called unpatriotic and not supporting "The Union", you know, like they do now.

Not sure what your point is.

Starmer was pitched exactly as I described to the labour membership, the fact that he has gone in the opposite direction is instructive.

So far he has alienated labours voting coalition - that it cant win without - shed 100k members and sacrificed the parties principles to go all out for the gammon vote.

This is not going to end well.