[hibeejim21]

Think the major issue there is like you say that a lot of the younger people from those areas have moved to the cities or urban areas for jobs and taken their labour votes with them...somewhere likely with a labour majority anyway! With FPTP it makes it nigh on impossible for labour to win now.

So the people left in those seats will have a large proportion of retired, house owning voters who are more likely to lean to the conservatives.

The problem labour have now is to try and appeal to that demographic whilst keeping their own voting coalition together - which is nigh on impossible with the culture wars raging, much like it was with Brexit.

Even with all that I'm not sure I believe too much in a 'red wall' as such, if Labour doesn't get its act together soon its going to lose a lot of its vote to the greens and the Lib Dems.