[spireitematt]

I've been having a debate with someone who voted Brexit and votes Conservative and he is a big fan of Johnson but can't explain why he votes Conservative, just says they are democratic and that they believe in Britain. He's anti-Labour, anti-Corbyn, hates the left, he hates Scotland, hates minorities. Believes that we will be fine out of the EU and that we can stand alone and don't need any trade deals with anyone. I had to explain to him what capitalism means and what privatisation means. He told me he's an old school Conservative but couldn't tell me what Conservative policies or a policy he supports. When I explained about privatisation, he told me that 'the Tories won't privatise the NHS as the Tories love the NHS and so does Boris as it saved his live'.

Found it quite disturbing when he told me that 'I need to wake up and get with the programme and stop reading everything'. I read books on politics and history, I read the manifestos from all parties every General Election, I read newspapers and follow the media, yet I'm being made out to be an idiot and a moron and apparently what I'm reading or I've read is all wrong and fake news.

You have basically described a Trump supporter here in the US with just a few words changed!!!  The one thing that you haven’t said is the conspiracy theories that we see all the time now from his supporters!!  Rarely do any of these come from reputable sources, a lot are homemade Youtube videos and most of his supporters will believe these “fables” instead of what experts or mainstream media say on the same subject!!  It is very scary how brainwashed they have become as a group.  Thankfully for us we have an opportunity coming up to get rid of these morons!!

How it started was, we were discussing Churchill and I mentioned about the Black and Tans, Bengal Famine, Tonypandy miners strike, Gallipoli etc. They also refused to accept that we had allies in WW2 who helped us, they believed that Britain stood alone and won the war by ourselves. Churchill was a war hero and he stood up to the xxxx's and stood up to people in his own party who wanted to appease Hitler but the problem is no one talks about the other things Churchill did.