(13-02-2020, 15:54)hibeejim21 Wrote: Watching the debate last night turn to independence for scotland i was struck by Starmer walking on eggshells. He's clearly too decent a human being to start with the English nationalism pish worryingly being courted by nandy at the moment..... but too switched on to be honest about Scotland and federalism or he would get shredded by the union lovers in his party.
He ended up looking really uncomfortable.
Starmer apart, IMO they are spectres gaping into a void, in denial about the result of the Dec 2019 election in Scotland where all the Unionist branches (not just the Labour Party!) have ended up with a mere handful of MPs. They are going the same way of the old communist parties in Europe, before the whole edifice crumbled. These parties were "out of touch" with their societies, aloof and dismissive of the potential within their respective populations and simply looked to Moscow assistance, even to put down protest.
The communist parties there "trumpeted" the broad shoulders of the Union (of Soviet Socialist Republics) and of the manifest destiny inherent in this state of affairs. Such parallels can be seen in the Scotland in Union propaganda and in similar rhetoric from the decaying Unionist "branches" up here.
As the UK lurches under Johnsonian delusion of globality and Empire II, the reality is otherwise. Lastly, in that unimpressive Labour leadership contest on bbc Newsnight, the bbc presenter had the audacity to pose a question, "Did the candidates think that a huge win for the SNP in next year's Scot GE would provide a mandate for Scotindy"???????? THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN 3 X F####### MANDATES IN THE PAST 4 YEARS!!!!!!! And not one of these Labour candidates questioned that fact - HOW MANY MANDATES DO YOU WANT FROM THE SCOT PEOPLE TO GRUDGINGLY ACCEPT IT FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? What a country we live in, what an undemocratic shit hole!!