15-01-2020, 00:05
(This post was last modified: 15-01-2020, 00:10 by BouncingHibees.)
(14-01-2020, 20:49)St Charles Owl Wrote:(14-01-2020, 19:01)0762 Wrote: Exactly right Jim and the old post election unionist/Tory f### off line, when Scottish voters previously voted unsuccessfully for a mainstream "unionist" party like Labour, does not apply any more because Scot Labour is finished up here as the population voted in the recent GE for a STOP BORIS, STOP BREXIT, CHOOSE SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE SNP mandate and the Tories played their opposite card (plus vote to "shut up" Nicola Sturgeon) and they were "blown away" - they are non-entities in Scotland and they know it!!! They are blatantly undemocratic c#### and they f####### well know it!! A good example of their shit heid behaviour was a pre-election comment by that wealthy moronic Sec of State for Scotland, Alister Jack, who professed that if there was a majority victory for the SNP in the Dec GE then there would be rightful justification for the Scottish govt to stage another indy referendum. The bastard totally changed his stance at the weekend when he expressed total opposition to what he previously said in December - HE BELIEVED THAT THE SNP WOULDN'T ATTAIN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY OR DECIMATE HIS SCOTTISH TORY PARTY SEATS!!! Hence the shameless, "moving of the goal posts" again!! An "enemy of Scotland" exposed!!!!! 19th century Irish nationalist, Charles Stewart Parnell, famously noted that, "no man has the right to fix the boundary of a nation" and "no man has the right to say to his country, Thus far shalt thou go and no further". How appropriate that statement is in this context!!!
But there wasn't a majority victory for the SNP in the last election!! Our first past the post system meant they were the top party in 48 constituencies but that won't apply to a referendum. If the SNP want to use the 2019 GE as the springboard for another referendum then they really needed to get more than 50% of the total vote and as I said I think that is what has caused Nicola to soften her rhetoric with regards to another referendum. I know Brexit was an all encompassing topic in the GE but even with that backdrop and the mood you describe in Scotland, that magical 50% mark wasn't reached by the SNP.
If we are going on those stats then the SNP have more of a right to ask for a independence vote than Boris has to deliver Brexit, SNP won more of the vote share than the Tories, the Tories in Scotland also fought a 'vote for us is a vote against indy2', they lost, pro remain parties won.
Boris's refusal was against a section 30 order being granted, but its yet to be proved we actually need one.
Once in a generation was a personal view from one man, a bit like dead in a ditch, there is currently a legal fight being funded and about to launch against Boris as he has broken the Edinburgh Agreement.