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What was "solid" about Caroline flint? My abiding memory of her is doing that stupid dance with portillo and Andrew Neill on this week.

The notion of her leading labour is pretty out there...not that the membership would vote for her in a million years.

Because she understood the electorate and understood why people voted Leave in the Referendum, she also warned Labour about a 2nd referendum stance yet she was ignored and look what happened.

The Momentum and the Corbynista's wouldn't vote for her no but other members would have. The Labour Party is currently being held to ransom by Momentum and the next leader will be someone who is close to Corbyn and that is likely to be Rebecca Long-Bailey if she stands or Emily Thornberry.

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It doesn't matter who the next leader is. We have zero chance of winning the next election. Might as well keep Jeremy on for another couple of years during the transition period. None of the candidates could lead a successful campaign.
We need someone with a personality that can get the message across. A comedian. Play Johnson at his own game. A personality who has been in the media spotlight for years. But most importantly, someone who can unite the party. None of the current candidates can do that.

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And the only way then that that candidate will ever become PM is if Brexit goes spectacularly badly and gets in on the "told you so" ticket.

Labour won't be able to overturn that majority unless something happens in the next 4-5 years. Best Labour can do at the next election is a hung parliament.