24-12-2019, 12:01
(This post was last modified: 24-12-2019, 12:16 by hibeejim21.)
(23-12-2019, 20:23)St Charles Owl Wrote:(23-12-2019, 20:11)hibeejim21 Wrote: Has any nation regretted gaining it's independence?
It’s all hypothetical once the change happens anyway, once independence is gained then that becomes the reality and the alternative had a country stayed put is now just opinion on what might have happened or be different. There will always be people who regret it because they didn’t want it in the first place for whatever reason, but in the end the country in question has to just get on with it whichever route they choose.
Could apply the same to Brexit, it eventually will be what it will be, we won’t know what the alternative could have been.
You couldn't apply the same to brexit, because ultimately it will be opposite to independence. Its the product of thick,racist little Englanders dreaming about the era when they won the world cup, but mostly knowing their place...and being happy to live in shit as long as they get fed the same lie.
How many nations have regretted independence ? I'll answer it for you - despite all the problems and strife that came following on not one of them would vote for a return to the old days.
(24-12-2019, 00:24)0762 Wrote: Scotland is sadly the only country since the end of WWII that didn't vote for independence when given the chance and IMO that was an absolute tragedy as we would've been well advanced on a different journey from the turbulence of the past three years in England! I won't even go into the ridiculous events of 2014 when the massive anti indy propaganda campaign, coordinated by the British state together with all other unionist parties, was an absolute disgrace and an "eyeopener" for a lotta observant Scottish voters who immediately vowed "this is not over, this is just the beginning"!! The latest country to vote for independence is Bougainville, an autonomous region of Papua New Guinea. The non-binding indy referendum choice was between greater autonomy within PNG and full independence - the people unanimously chose full independence! There was a history of oppression dating back to the 1970s and a civil war eventually broke out in 1988 that lasted almost a decade and cost Bougainville 20k lives.
Ireland had to take up arms to achieve it, because the UK was running a campaign of propaganda and using intelligence on the ground to keep the irish people divided and "in their place". Following independence a lot of their people left for the UK and USA and there were hard times (mainly down to decades of UK misrule and the currency question) but no way would they consider returning back to the UK - In fact the republic is in a healthier state democratically going forward than the UK.