[ritchiebaby]

0762, don't bother getting uppity about me using the term "will of the people". You have used the term yourself in your posts, so to criticise me for doing it smacks of hypocrisy.

Anyway, whether you like it or not, the EU referendum was for the whole of the UK, not just certain parts of it. And whether you like it or not, the first past the post system is the one in operation, so we have to accept it.

Whatever terms you and I might choose to use, my basic points in the last sentence remain.

Have I really used that "will of the people" irritating rhetorical line that applies to a split vote on a referendum!!???? I hate that line, it is a form of brainwashing deliberately used for years by lotsa Brexit backers and, NOT BEING UPPITY ABOUT IT, it is "tiresome" and I would never use it to cover such a split vote anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show me a thread where I've used this line in that context!!??? If I was to use this rhetorical line to make a point, I'd use it only in a unanimous scenario!! WE HAVE TO ACCEPT A SHIT FPTP SYSTEM??? Why????? Why wasn't there a properly presented prospectus on a very complex issue as we have discovered down the years?????? That system is flawed and you f###### well know it is without me ramming that fact down your throat - you are not that daft!! There are books written by well qualified authors about the misuse and advantages gained by certain parties using a FPTP system - visit a book shop like Watermans and buy one of them and enlighten yourself re this outdated system!! As for the "lets dismiss Scotland because we are a region" line - well we live in a sovereign country and read how most Scots view that kinda shit being uttered against what is now a huge Scottish opinion to remain in the EU, much greater than in 2016 and contrary to what you clearly want!! Lastly I have no issue re your end line Ritchie!! The country is polarised and Scotland must somehow remove itself from this "poison" and get away from this insanity. Like many pro indy Scots, I am losing patience although I do think "patience is a virtue" and one must hold firm as Scottish resolve for self-determination is increasing daily - I guess it is all about timing but when???

Regarding the first comment I have highlighted, I really don't want to get into an argument on your post, but you have used that term in a previous post on this thread - post #1584 in June - and you might have used it on other occasions, but I can't be bothered to go and look. On the second highlighted text, you are certainly not quoting me. Presumably someone else has said that, as I firmly believe that Scotland is not only a sovereign country, but should become an independent one. I don't dismiss or denigrate anyone who voted Remain, but simple arithmetic decides the winner - one vote would have been enough.

On the FPTP system, I'm not that daft, but we do have to accept it because it is the system in operation. I do agree that it does lead to either a Right or Left government over the years, meaning there is no consistency in UK policies. I would much prefer a PR system but that would depend on all parties coming together in the middle somewhere and there's no chance of that happening in Westminster. We always seem to be swaying from one extreme to the other and fighting amongst ourselves and the divide is growing and becoming more bitter every day. I can guarantee that it won't end well if attitudes don't soften a lot.