[St Charles Owl]

That is utter rubbish and the insinuation has been previously mentioned and "trashed" in threads within this OP! Fickleness prevails again! The word "nationalism" in a Scottish context has been abused so many times by many "suspects" in exactly the same way that has been described and lets have the facts repeated again for any antagonist to "take it in and register it this time". Scottish nationalism (boyyy, I hate that word so much because of the serial misuse of it to denigrate the Scot nationalist cause!!!) is actually a form of civic nationalism rather than the extreme version of English nationalism and all the negative connotations attached to it!! I'd suggest to any budding insinuator that they come to Scotland and reside here for a couple of months to actually realise the difference and study the progressive governance that is fairly self-evident to anyone living here on a regular basis. Sure, the end objective is similar in the fact that we wanna separate from the union but don't dare compare the two concepts and say they are the same because of a common word called "nationalism"!! This is utter tripe that has been "pulled" before and as for Swinson, that sums her up as the undemocratic "chancer" that suits her rules only!! In other words, you can have a vote, that's allowed, but as long as that vote is agreeable to my rules and my preferences!!?? And she calls herself a f###### LiberalDEMOCRAT??? She is actually a unionist hypocrite "on the prowl" and don't be fooled by this woman - SHE HAS FORM!!

You are jumping to a few conclusions there!!! Nationalism, Unionism, Patriotism, all words that mean something in the big scheme of things, but all words that can be used positively or negatively based on the actual goal that is trying to be achieved. If the nationalism goals you want are born out of racism or, as seen in Scotland at times in the past, sectarianism, then that is completely and utterly wrong and should be rightly condemned.

You are right, current Scottish nationalism has an independence from the UK goal, a goal to govern yourselves and be in control of your own destiny - that are very valid reasons for nationalism. In the case she was talking about, the current English nationalism with regards to pulling out of the EU, which is a very similar set of goals to the Scottish version, again its opinion based goals but a valid form. English Nationalism that we see from some extreme elements that is based on racism is not acceptable, but equally this is not the only form of nationalism you find in England, especially since the Brexit vote. People who use the word Unionist as a bad thing are equally as wrong as you say she is. There is nothing wrong with being a Unionist that wants to see the UK remain together, I would prefer to see the Union stay together and move forward together, so in terms of the UK I would be a Unionist!! If you do ever leave the UK and join the EU, then you will potentially become unionists in favour of your new union with the EU!!!!

These words can all too often be made to sound negative, or can be attached to a negative cause as we used to see with the flag of St George and the Union Jack in the past, but ultimately they are just words and labels attributed to lots of scenarios, some good, some not. The Yanks are masters of this, Republicans using the words socialism or democratic or liberal in a negative way any time they can, making their supporters dismiss anything associated with those terms, yet the country is born on the values these words refer to. Changing the meaning to suit a message is wrong no matter how it gets dressed up.