[spireitematt]

Another point I'd like to make is the fact that a referendum is actually an opinion poll that a government has every right to decide on accordingly but they must set the ground rules to the population before the event - this was sadly lacking in 2016 TBF about it, the organisation and setting up of this event was a disgrace as well as the poor representation of the remain population by a number of people incl Corbyn, who I'll never forgive re his pitiful, insincere representations during 2016! Now Switzerland is a great example of a country that runs referenda regularly down the years and they practise in this effective manner - unanimous referenda are seriously considered, close run affairs "chucked in the bin" and stick to the status quo. They are far more experienced through years n years of practise. The 2016 EU referendum was so full of money and vested interest as well as partisan and negative behaviour particularly in England, it was unreal!!

They did set the rules before the referendum took place they said whatever the decision and outcome that they would implement the result yet they are failing miserably to do that. No one voted in 2016 on how to leave the EU or if they wanted a deal or not, it was just Remain or Leave. It doesn't matter whether you voted Leave or Remain on the 23rd June 2016 the electorate didn't vote for Parliament to be suspended. Suspending Parliament isn't democratic and it's certainly not 'taking back control'. It's essentially a tinpot dictatorship.

The reason that Remain lost the referendum in 2016 is because they weren't working together as one. Cameron and Osborne didn't want to work with Corbyn and I very much doubt that Corbyn wanted to work with Cameron and Osborne, same goes for the Lib Dems. They were all running their own separate campaigns and rallies around the country. Then you had Major and Blair going around the country at events and also on the TV and radio saying the people should vote this way etc. You had Cameron and the Remain campaign using scaremongering tactics and trying to frighten people into voting Remain.

You mention that the EU referendum was so full of money and vested interest as well as partisan and negative behaviour particularly in England, Well what about the people who campaigned for Remain and their money and vested interests in Europe and people who worked for the EU and their pensions? It goes both ways.

I would say for the last 25-30 years that the British electorate have been very Eurosceptic and I think the big reason goes back to 1992 when Major signed the Maastricht treaty without giving the electorate a referendum vote then. The right wing media like the Telegraph, Mail and Express for the last 30 years have printed articles and stories which aren't factual correct. Does the EU need to reform? Yes it does, it needs to row back and let countries control their own social and economic problems while working together. The EU bureaucrats would love to move to a federal Europe if you let them but the people of Europe would be totally against it that's unless you are a Europhile or a Pro-Federalist.