20-06-2019, 18:24
(This post was last modified: 20-06-2019, 19:10 by hibeejim21.)
Irish PM says there is ‘enormous hostility’ to further extension among member states.
Basically the EU leaders saying today they are resigned to a "no deal" brexit.
I think he has handled it badly but in no way will he "be as much to blame as the tories". This is a tory project from start to finish, labour do not have the arithmetic in parliament to force a new vote or a change of direction (and the record shows he has tried on numerous occasions), and have their own divisions to consider.
There is a reason we haven't left yet, and that's down to labour,SNP,lib dems and a handful of tory "rebels". They have saved the nation from meltdown. Corbyn's run out of road now though and with bojo heading for no deal he has to put aside his euroscepticism and get behind a remain position or his party are going to be totally fucked.
Basically the EU leaders saying today they are resigned to a "no deal" brexit.
(18-06-2019, 22:35)St Charles Owl Wrote:(18-06-2019, 17:36)0762 Wrote: It is a Tory party issue (always has been!), not a national one, and just listen to a common theme of most of the candidates who wanna deliver brexit because that is the "will of the people" - correction: the will of the 160k Tory party members, a membership that is dominated by rich "oldies"/lpensioners! who bizarrely crave for brexit! Also I can't believe the Labour Party is still not swinging towards the "remain movement" and finally "choosing a side" and be done with it instead of "sitting on the fence"!! My conclusion is an extreme one and that is that the Labour Party needs to ditch Corbyn asap - not up to this major crisis/challenge, a dithering fool!
Spot on with this part. If a hard Brexit does go through then the Labour Party and particularly Corbyn will be as much to blame as the Tories!! Corbyn is worrying more about his own job and his reputation with his back benchers than doing his job and providing an effective opposition to the Tories!!
I think he has handled it badly but in no way will he "be as much to blame as the tories". This is a tory project from start to finish, labour do not have the arithmetic in parliament to force a new vote or a change of direction (and the record shows he has tried on numerous occasions), and have their own divisions to consider.
There is a reason we haven't left yet, and that's down to labour,SNP,lib dems and a handful of tory "rebels". They have saved the nation from meltdown. Corbyn's run out of road now though and with bojo heading for no deal he has to put aside his euroscepticism and get behind a remain position or his party are going to be totally fucked.