06-02-2019, 21:37
Wow, 0762, you interpreted Devon's post completely differently than I did!!! Now you have me questioning how I read it but having done so again I can't see what caused your vitriol?? Devon is essentially saying that if you want to have a voice and potentially effect change or at least have your opinion heard in Westminster, going down the Sinn Fein route of simply not turning up is not the way to do it. He is suggesting the 50 odd MPs that represent Scotland should attend parliament and make as much noise as they can and do whatever they can to disrupt Westminster. It might not succeed but staying away like SF do certainly won't and ultimately makes them irrelevant as far as Westminster is concerned!!
I do agree that the 9% of the seats given to Scotland is more than the population in Scotland should have if you pro-rata it on that basis. Its only a percent or two out so probably irrelevant but the last time I looked the people are the ones who vote, not the geography or land mass they live on!!
I also agree with there being plenty of anti-England rhetoric from Scottish people and institutions down the years and while some of that may well be deserved it hardly helps the Union, but I suspect a lot of it is designed to have the opposite effect. I am sure at some point Scotland will gain its independence from the UK, personally I hope that doesn't happen but I have no skin in that game, but the clamour for an independent Scotland to then quickly jump back into bed with the EU seems a bit like out of the frying pan and into the fire. You claim that Scotland is irrelevant in terms of its voice and opinions within the UK, you can bet its even more irrelevant in the EU. And if you think the "divorce" the Uk is currently going through with the EU is a fiasco then I can only dread to think how much more difficult it will be to extricate Scotland from the UK and all that will have to change to achieve that!!!
I do agree that the 9% of the seats given to Scotland is more than the population in Scotland should have if you pro-rata it on that basis. Its only a percent or two out so probably irrelevant but the last time I looked the people are the ones who vote, not the geography or land mass they live on!!
I also agree with there being plenty of anti-England rhetoric from Scottish people and institutions down the years and while some of that may well be deserved it hardly helps the Union, but I suspect a lot of it is designed to have the opposite effect. I am sure at some point Scotland will gain its independence from the UK, personally I hope that doesn't happen but I have no skin in that game, but the clamour for an independent Scotland to then quickly jump back into bed with the EU seems a bit like out of the frying pan and into the fire. You claim that Scotland is irrelevant in terms of its voice and opinions within the UK, you can bet its even more irrelevant in the EU. And if you think the "divorce" the Uk is currently going through with the EU is a fiasco then I can only dread to think how much more difficult it will be to extricate Scotland from the UK and all that will have to change to achieve that!!!