31-01-2019, 22:07
(31-01-2019, 20:15)hibeejim21 Wrote: Are any of them stockpiling food and medicine Matt ?
I work closely with the large food retailers...they aren't joking about food supplies... I reckon a couple of weeks after no deal the UK will be in deep shit.
Keep kidding yourself on though.
You lot are worrying over nothing. We aren't leaving, trust me it's not going to happen. Article 50 will be extended or revoked at the 11th hour and we will end up having a 2nd referendum. If we were going to leave the EU then the Leave campaign and N10 should have had plans in case Leave won and no one had a plan because deep down they thought Remain would win and it would be a foregone conclusion. The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
I don't particularly like the EU but we still need to trade with them, the only way to stop the backstop would be to have a customs union or stay in the single market. I think the if the EU reformed and rowed back on certain things then we wouldn't be leaving but they don't want to reform, they want to keep carrying on or reform to a "ever closer union" and a "United Europe".
The British people were never asked if they wanted to go into the Common Market it was Parliament and Heath who voted in 71 and in 1972 the European Community Act was drawn up and we joined in 1973 and it was 2 years later under Wilson that he offered a referendum on the subject to the British people. Then in 1992 John Major signed the Maastricht treaty without asking the British people. In 2005 in the Labour manifesto Tony Blair offered to have a referendum on Europe but he never offered it to the British people in the end and him and Brown signed the Lisbon treaty in 2007. Also isn't it funny those people who voted IN in 1975 voted Leave in 2016 because they saw what the "Common Market" had evolved into and they didn't like it.
You've got people on the Leave side who think it will be the land of milk and honey if we Leave and it won't be but you've also got people on the Remain side who think we will get unicorns and rainbows and it's going to be wonderful if we Remain. I've read a lot of people on social media say they want our Parliament abolished and that we join an EU Superstate.
What angers me is when you read books on politics and it emerges that generations were lied to on Europe and other things. We as a nation have been sold down the river by the Tories and I'm sorry to say Labour too. They lied in 1975 on the common market referendum, they lie at General Elections, MPs mislead (lie) the house and they don't have to apologise for it, both Remain and Leave lied in 2016 on the referendum.
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