Aye! And the Catalans can effectively #### off eh! I notice the Spanish govt appears to have influenced/infiltrated their judiciary to impose their will on the forthcoming trial of the already imprisoned Catalan govt officials. Disgraceful if true and the continued antagonism against the peaceful Catalan indy movement, who will be tested in the extreme, is outrageous, undemocratic and unacceptable in a civilised society. One can see why an oppressed people and their leaders can finally "break open the arms caches" and fight for their self-determination! I wish them well in the face of this continuous antagonism to "pull a response" as we've observed these crass tactics in history and in fact in more recent times in certain unstable countries!! They have stuck by a peaceful resolve to gain self-determination but they are facing Fascist opponents with a nasty, antagonistic policy to repress the movement at every opportunity.