19-06-2018, 23:58
I still stand by my interpretation of the current SNP tactic of deliberately trying to pick a fight with the Tories and the House Of Commons, in an attempt to stir up the most vociferous and radical elements within their organisation and gain similar-thinking extra members.
The SNP are hypocrites because they criticise the Tories for not being willing to come to a deal over the devolved areas of Brexit, while they are in exactly the same position. The stupid walk-out was hardly going to influence anybody other than like-minded people who like that type of petty playground behaviour. It certainly shows how unsuitable the current SNP are for independent government and almost makes me want to have Alex Salmond back. Conviction of your cause is not enough on it's own, you need to have moderation and diplomacy to convince others that your cause is just and reasonable.
Other than that, I have sympathy with a lot of what you say, if not the depth of anger. Don't forget that Angus Robertson, Alex Salmond and 19 other SNP MPs lost their seats in the last UK General Election and Ian Blackford (Angus Robertson Mk2) could end up the same if he doesn't get himself sorted out. Even the seats the SNP held in 2017 were with reduced majorities - that's Scottish votes, remember - so learn the lesson and don't blame the lapsed voters.
Contrary to what you think, I do support Scottish Independence, just not with Nicola at the helm. I still support Brexit for various reasons, but the Brexit I voted for will not be delivered by Theresa May, as she is following John Major's policy of trying to please too many factions within her own party, instead of trying to build a concensus for her own ideas. Your last clause hits the nail on the head - accept that the SNP lost the vote on the 2014 Independence Referendum and the 2017 UK General Election and try to improve their standing for future votes, not go back over old ground that has bogged you down in the past.
I know you won't agree with me but that's fine by me. It's democracy at work.
The SNP are hypocrites because they criticise the Tories for not being willing to come to a deal over the devolved areas of Brexit, while they are in exactly the same position. The stupid walk-out was hardly going to influence anybody other than like-minded people who like that type of petty playground behaviour. It certainly shows how unsuitable the current SNP are for independent government and almost makes me want to have Alex Salmond back. Conviction of your cause is not enough on it's own, you need to have moderation and diplomacy to convince others that your cause is just and reasonable.
Other than that, I have sympathy with a lot of what you say, if not the depth of anger. Don't forget that Angus Robertson, Alex Salmond and 19 other SNP MPs lost their seats in the last UK General Election and Ian Blackford (Angus Robertson Mk2) could end up the same if he doesn't get himself sorted out. Even the seats the SNP held in 2017 were with reduced majorities - that's Scottish votes, remember - so learn the lesson and don't blame the lapsed voters.
Contrary to what you think, I do support Scottish Independence, just not with Nicola at the helm. I still support Brexit for various reasons, but the Brexit I voted for will not be delivered by Theresa May, as she is following John Major's policy of trying to please too many factions within her own party, instead of trying to build a concensus for her own ideas. Your last clause hits the nail on the head - accept that the SNP lost the vote on the 2014 Independence Referendum and the 2017 UK General Election and try to improve their standing for future votes, not go back over old ground that has bogged you down in the past.
I know you won't agree with me but that's fine by me. It's democracy at work.
Cabbage is still good for you