[spireitematt]

Cameron was a 100% selfish ####### and one of the worst PMs in living memory! Hence his old nickname 'Flashman'!

He was your usual tory,self serving dickhead who threw the UK under the bus to save his own position. No one should be surprised,its what the tories do.

What is amazing is just how many of the English actually vote for these bastards.

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Rumour going around that if we do stay in the EU it won't be on same terms. We might be asked to join the Euro, accept the Schengen area and not get a rebate. Which is a worse deal than what we had before if that happens. It's an absolute ****show. Looking at it Cameron really ****** the country up and then didn't want to deal with the mess so walked away.

What is the source of this "rumour" ?

We have triggered article 50 and are leaving the EU. If we want back in at some future point of course its going to be on **** different terms     The EU aren't going to hold the door open for us,they are already moving on. They are following our instruction.

The governments position is that everything is going to carry on as normal plus extra milk and honey trade deals is clearly bollocks. Even they don't believe it. The EU have told them the 2 options they are debating on customs union are "unworkeable" and "fantasy".

No businessman, moderate or sane person would countenance this now with what we have seen. A 2nd referendum at the end of the process is just and fair. Half of the shit the tories are trying to pull was not on the voting card,or discussed in the campaign.

Read in the paper that if we decide to stay that we might have to renegotiate a new deal instead of going back to the original deal we had before. If we do re-enter the EU in a few years time we will have a completely different deal than what we had before.

Come out today that we have to pay the £39 billion upfront before trade talks can begin, and technology based customs system could cost Britain £20 billion when we already have a deficit of £6.2 billion.

No Deal = 2.8 million unemployed = loss of £99 billion a year

Trade agreement (outside the single market) = 1.75 million unemployed = loss of £99 billion a year

Soft Brexit (Single market & Customs Union) = 700,000 unemployed = loss of £39 billion a year

and if we Remain we will have no job losses and no loss of £s per year.