28-02-2018, 01:56
(28-02-2018, 00:44)hibeejim21 Wrote: "People voted for Brexit for different things Hibeejim21"
But mostly xenophobic and nationalist 'things'. It's a total myth that the average Briton is upset by EU rules. They're told to be by the press, and so they attach their much more diffuse hostility to the EU to rules that they don't even understand, some of the arguments and figures presented on here as a case for brexit have been absolute **** nonsense.
Most British folk i've met just want what's pretty much the norm in the EU: a mixed capitalist economy with fairly high public spending. Its the tories who don't want that, they and their backers want a move to a unregulated,asian style economy. Brexit won't solve immigration either, Given our demography and economy, we'll still have high figures, just in increasing numbers from outside europe.
Brexit is a total con. The vast,vast majority of the ills of the UK were caused by UK governments rather than the EU. Especially the tory one.
Like I said everyone voted Leave for different reasons, people vote for different reasons in a General Election, you are just generalising what people voted for. If the result had been Remain 52% to 48% would you have told the people who voted Leave to put up or shut up? If it had been Remain then the result would have had to be respected by the people because that's democracy, obviously you would have one or two individuals who would bleat on about having another referendum but the result would stand and Cameron would still be in power with a small majority.
If the referendum was Leave 60%-40% or even 70%-30% would you have respected it then? Also the referendum back in 2016 if that was a General Election the result would have been called a landslide.
When the UK joined the EEC (Common Market) back in 1972/73 without a referendum under Ted Heath and the Tories the British public were not consulted until 2 years later when Harold Wilson gave the British public a referendum on it and that referendum was about a Common Market not a political union. In 1992 we didn't sign Maastricht but in 2007 Labour and Brown signed the Treaty of Lisbon without a referendum when they should have consulted the British people and asked them did they want to join the European Union or stay in the Single Market but they didn't. If they had consulted the British people would we have had Brexit? Probably not.
Scotland are Nationalistic aren't they? Scottish people are proud to be Scottish? and Scottish people are proud to fly their flag? and they vote for a party called the Scottish National Party do they not? So why can Scotland be nationalistic but no one else can.
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