13-02-2018, 19:12
(This post was last modified: 13-02-2018, 19:15 by spireitematt.)
(13-02-2018, 14:01)hibeejim21 Wrote: Labours problem is that they have nowhere to go on brexit, they can't out brexit the tories, going brexit lite is risky with the north and midland seats that voted out and going full on anti brexit would likely destroy them electorally - it resulted in no increase in support for the lib dems on that platform at the election. So i understand corbyns dilemna, scotland is a totally different set of circumstances to england and wales. There may well be an election soon so labour needs to maximise its chances of a win, best way to do that is to give the tories 'enough rope' with brexit and concentrate on domestic issues.
It may frustrate us 'remainers' but its a solid tactic.
As for leonard he has a long way to go before he makes labour electable up here, the party is a complete shambles north of the border.
Labour are between a rock and a hard place because if they back Brexit they will lose remain voters at the next election especially the younger voters who want to remain and if they decide to oppose Brexit then they will lose there core supporters because the core supporters voted for Brexit especially in the North East, North West etc. That's why their sat on the fence but sooner or later they are going to have to get off the fence and choose which side of the fence they want to be on.
The only way Labour will get electable in Scotland again is if the electorate see through the SNP or get annoyed with them but as Scotland is divided between the Yes and No vote then the SNP will always send politicians back to Westminster.
Next election in my opinion is going to be a hung parliament again or a small Tory majority if they change leader before the next election. I think its going to be very rare in the future that we see landslides in elections like they had in the past. The only way Labour will ever win again is if they become less London centric and actually listen to the electorate and what they want but I can't see that changing because Labour has sort of become a party for the young middle classes and been taken over. I am actually contemplating cancelling my membership as the party I joined 8 years ago isn't the party today.
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