[spireitematt]

I've never heard the EU take credit for the good friday agreement - can you supply some evidence pls ?


"Also what I don't understand is the EU want £50 billion (maybe more) to move talks on to a trade deal."


The UK agreed to the structure of the talks and timetable with the EU. So ask them. That timetable involves dealing with citizenship,ireland and our financial obligations first.

In someway it feels like the EU are blackmailing the UK and trying to teach us a lesson and show the other member states this is what will happen if you try to leave

Its a political and economic union. They are not going to give us a deal comparable with EU membership no matter how the daily **** mail spin it. Otherwise whats the point of being a member ? Thats the point remember ?


What the EU should have done first is negotiate a trade deal first and then sort out the divorce bill

Why? We are leaving the EU not the other way around. The terms of article 50 mean we have to sort all this shite out and davis agreed to those terms,and rightly so. Just because barmier and co aren't bending over backwards to make it easy is neither here nor there.

Remember how certain tories told us this would be the easiest thing in the world ?

Something I read on twitter about them taking credit for it could have been fake news.

I understand we agreed a timetable when article 50 was triggered but you don't pay the money upfront without getting something in return. If you buy or invest money in something you want a return for your money. The EU if they wanted could just take the money and then shut us out.

I know its a political/economical union but they are saying if you don't pay the money (ransom) then they refuse to go into trade negotiations. We have to pay our obligations but I think there going about it the wrong way.

No one expects them to bend over backwards but they and the UK should leave on good terms and still be friends.

It was never going to be an easy task to leave the EU. The Tories live in cloud cuckoo land.