I know they've 'been in there' for 'donkeys' years' Saint Charles Owl but during the Obama years, and more recently with Trump, my perception of their significant presence was that they have been 'forced into the background' and been less influential compared with before. However, these people don't go away, that's for sure, and I'd concur with that last comment and the 'powers of influence' (+forged alliances) that they can still practise with many people in government. It's one of the main reasons why Israel has 'survived' for a long time and effectively 'got away with murder' unchallenged for years gone by! Even the whole process that led to the production of Israel's own WMD, was highly questionable and that whole episode reeks of utter hypocrisy when one studies the response of the USA to other similar ventures by nations that they classify as the 'wrong ones'!! What a joke!