30-08-2017, 23:21
(This post was last modified: 30-08-2017, 23:27 by St Charles Owl.)
(30-08-2017, 23:13)Imre varadi Wrote: with repsects to youre beliefs charlie ! when you say you do not think hes ready for the championship yet ? is Abdi Matiass Nuhui Palmer Wildsmith etc etc ready for the championship yet ? i mean do they actually change a game when they come on form the seats they sit on for a lifetime ? answer no do they **** !!! so wouldnt it be better if yong Hirst tossed it off there at least he might come good in the future if he is so shit !!
Not sure your argument is relevant. All of those you mentioned are squad players and aside from Nuhiu are not strikers, they are essentially our reserves, Hirst isn't even up to that standard yet. He will not get any games with us this season, he could warm the bench for a few games and make a few 10-15 minute cameos but surely at this stage of his career (and lets not forget he has only just turned 18 and is still wafer thin!!) its proper game time he needs in full blooded games!! He is holding us to ransom because he does have great potential. If its first team football he wants then what makes him think any PL club will give him that?? He is chasing the money and I think he is too young and too raw for us to be playing that game. Sell him with a sell on clause or get him to sign the contract.
(30-08-2017, 23:19)Maddix Wrote:(30-08-2017, 22:54)St Charles Owl Wrote: Good signing for us and that means we are set at CH with 4 actual CHs and two stand-ins with Hutch and Pudil.
As for Hirst, I firmly believe he is not ready for the Championship, and he is definitely behind the 4 main strikers as well as FF and probably Joao, Nuhiu shouldn't count and should be sold. Hirst needs to go out on loan to League one at best but he needs to sign a new contract. If he doesn't sign a new contract then we should sell him now. We have no real idea what goes on behind the scenes but I think his head has been turned by his Dad and by the interest from PL clubs. They will certainly pay him more than we will but I also guarantee they will immediately loan him out to League one or below to allow him to develop and play some proper football against men not boys. At the moment I have no time for him, he is showing no loyalty to the club that brought him through from a very young age, and if he isn't ready for the first team then he needs to go on loan but for me he is seeing the bright lights too much!!
The problem is that he turned down these clubs a few years ago because he wanted to follow in his Dad's footsteps and came to our academy. We've given him no encouragement to stay financially (which is what everything boils down to) or playing wise. If I was a precocious teenager banging in goals for fun, representing England at all levels and then seeing wankers like Nuhiu and Joao being given chance after chance after chance while I can't even get a place on the bench and the odd 10 minutes to help my development then I would be as pissed off as George Hirst.
If he's not ready SCO, then the 10 minutes now and then will make him realise that and help him settle down.
Mark my words, we will come out of this badly both financially and playing wise because we have no f'ucker with a clue in the admin department
Disagree!! Show me who in those England teams he plays for is a regular at their club at first team level?? If he wants to follow in his dads footsteps thats fine, but his Dad did his "loan" bit at the Dingles before he was in our first team. Does anyone on here truly think he is ready for the first team at S6?? Because knowing Wednesday fans, god help him if he doesn't score every game!!! And wankers like Nuhiu and Joao are not in the team, bench at best and only for one of them at best, so they are hardly being given chance after chance these days. The odd ten minutes won't develop him anywhere near as much as a loan move will.
What would you have the club do?? He isn't going anywhere until he signs a contract and the club is protected by that contract, he has been stalling on it for a while now because someone is in his ear saying that if he goes to Leicester he can play in the prem!! That is not the case, so as we stand he is simply holding out for more money, not more playing time.