09-06-2017, 17:53
(09-06-2017, 14:57)0762 Wrote: A 2nd Indy referendum blown into the water???? You wish!!! The Scottish 'block vote' held firm in Scotland and the SNP won the Scottish vote by a country mile - the SNP still hold more seats than all the opposing parties put together + all SNP votes counted (a huge significant proportion of total votes!) tell me a 2nd Indy ref is alive n kicking but 'patience is a virtue' and the formal conclusion of the Brexit negotiations/cock up will be the 'spark' to seriously activate Scot ref 2!! Also we're talking about a general election with lotsa different narratives attached to it and NOT a Scottish Election where lotsa voters who voted away from the SNP for various reasons yesterday still want an Indy Ref 2 and ultimately independence!! So dream on mate!! The issue is not gonna go away as many unionists hope it will!!!! As for the embarrassed toerag govt led by Theresa May in denial? Being propped up by the most extreme political party in parliament - desperation comes to mind and May is a 'dead woman walking' TBF!! The difference between May's lame post election speech (in denial) and Sturgeon's pragmatic post election comments/summary were 'night n day'!!! Sturgeon far more astute and up front even after a disappointing night when some SNP colleagues have lost their electoral seats. Time to regroup and assure a massive Scottish support out in the country and try to attract many more of the young voters much like Corbyn has achieved.
Indy Ref 2 is not dead, never will be because of the Scots who want away from England and will until the day they die. But for now it has been placed firmly on the back burner. The Scottish block vote didn't hold firm, 12 seats were lost to the Tories, in your words the worst government we have seen in many a decade and one that was supposed to be dead north of the border!! The SNP vote was down to 37% and while for sure if there was an indy vote that would certainly change it hardly gives the SNP any mandate on the national level to push for a new referendum. Nicola will bide her time I am sure, just like Corbyn will in the UK as a whole, and they will wait to see what transpires in the coming months, but for now that is essentially all they can do!!
As regards the Tory/DUP alliance, to be fair that alliance has always been there, isn't it the case that the DUP have always voted on Tory lines?? It gives them a majority and while it stands firm the other parties do not have the number of seats to govern even if Sinn Fein were to take their seats!!