[hibeejim21]

Jim - it's not difficult to understand. The middle ground will decide the result of any future Scottish Independence vote, not the vociferous nationalists, so any SNP plan should take that into consideration. From the reported headline policies it seems to me that there is an anti English/UK agenda in many of the SNP proposals.

0762 - the SNP lost the Scottish Independence vote in 2014 and they lost the UK wide EU vote in 2016 and all they can do is moan and threaten even more instability than we have at present. For all the SNP's delusions of their own importance in the UK, PM May will be negotiating the Brexit terms on behalf of the UK. If there is a rebellion against Brexit in Parliament, it will be the "hated" English Tories that will instigate it. Also, if my instincts are correct, PM May, as head of the UK Government will have the final decision on whether there will be another Scottish Referendum or not.

However this will be my last input meantime on this subject as we will obviously continue to disagree.

As far as I can see not much has changed since October. It is true that the House of Commons will have a debate and vote on the triggering of Article 50. If passed, it will go to the unelected House of Lords. The Tory Government will still have the dubious honour of leading the UK's agreed response to that decision. Just as it had before.

Nicola Sturgeon has stated that a second Scottish Referendum was "highly likely", then "even more likely" and now today "very likely". Not much change there either.

The UK wide EU Referendum decided that the UK is to leave the EU - not just bits of the UK, but the whole UK. Same as before.

What's the point in voting for a Westminster MP when it's obvious that when it comes to matters of "national" importance any non-English constituency voices have absolutely no say? This is the legal standpoint too going by the supreme courts decision yesterday. So what is even the point of having our own parliament if we cant influence a decision like this ?

It's supposed to be a union of two nations, not one nation owning another, although that's what it effectively is. That's why I prefer independence,i don't particularly care about the SNP, on independence the Scottish people can decide who they want to take us forward and i'll roll with that whatever the majority choose.

But now its clearer than ever before that the union no longer works for Scotland. How much xxxx clearer does it need to be ?

The SNP clearly made the case that only a substantial material change in conditions could trigger another referendum. Brexit is that change in conditions - undeniably.