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As far as I can tell, the club pushed through the revenue of the sale of the ground in last years accounts, which is why they were delayed, when they should go into this years. So if you take that off the books then we made a loss of over 50m, way about the allowed 39m over 3 years. This in itself would likely carry a punishment of a points reduction and transfer embargo!! Add to that if we get done for deception, then they will add to the punishment!!
I have no doubt this will kill the season and we will have to fight to stay up. The only silver lining is the sale of the ground will go into this seasons accounts and we will make a huge profit, so we will have money to clean out and refresh the squad for next season!!
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No good if we are in league 1 though is it ? No positives here Charlie I'm.afraid .
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(17-11-2019, 02:48)Imre varadi Wrote: No good if we are in league 1 though is it ? No positives here Charlie I'm.afraid .
If we get a 12 point deduction we will easily stay up, if we get the full 21 points then it will be a struggle.
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We can stay up, relying on Stoke, Barnsley to be consistently shit though isn't the way to spend the season.
Derby should be punished equally if not more so, Pride Park is never 90M
Pigs have come out of the woodwork and I don't blame them.
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(17-11-2019, 07:48)Statesideowl Wrote: We can stay up, relying on Stoke, Barnsley to be consistently shit though isn't the way to spend the season.
Derby should be punished equally if not more so, Pride Park is never 90M
Pigs have come out of the woodwork and I don't blame them.
To be fair this has nothing to do with the valuation, its all to do with the timing and the inclusion in last years accounts rather than this years. Derby did it for the same reason as we did, but they included the revenue in the correct way and in the correct year. It was done that way so we showed a profit when clearly we had gone way over the 39m limits. Chansiri has to take the blame, but I don't blame him, he has the money, he wants to spend it but the rules do not allow him to.
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17-11-2019, 17:48
(This post was last modified: 17-11-2019, 18:26 by Imre varadi.)
If that's correct Charlie what you're saying surely we would only get a fine ? I mean if you're accounts are late in the normal world you get a fine and if you pay it then they don't throw you in prison. While chansiri has seriously effed up here again by employing idiots to let this happen if it wasn't his own doing ? A fine for late accounts is justified but a points deduction is harsh if it's for late accounting they do us on ?
The writings been on the wall for years though with chansiri the only decent staff he seemed to have walked out on the club within months. It seems he can only employ idiots as idiots seem to comply with his sometimes bizzare thai attitude ...they just say yes and go about there business without giving a monkeys about there work ethic .
If we are deducted points then chansiri should do the decent thing which is either of the 2 options he's effed up time and time again and while he does have good intentions he's bringing nothing to the club fact ! We were in better shape with Mandy and no money on and off the pitch.
1. Leave the club to the power of his son and don't step foot in Hillsborough again.
2. Sell up plain and simple.
On a happier note Nuhui starts today hope he makes that flat headed c..unt Maguire a new set of teeth !
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Just been looking on Owls(bollocks)talk ... and . please Imre ..answer this question honestly .....Would anyone rather have had MM carry on until now with his level of investment ..or how it's gone with Chanseri ???
Personally, I would have it no other way as it is, with MM we would be currently league 1 with his level of investment, ( and before you open yer gob Imre) we are CURRENTLY doing ok
The guy makes mistakes , BUT without him as chairman , where do you thing we would be ??, I really don't understand the hate he gets from so called fans ..£80,000,000 he has invested , so if any of these so called fans want to buy in ..LETS SEE YOUR CASH, otherwise , be quiet and let's see where we are in 5 years , if you can afford to spend that sort of YOUR OWN CASH on the Owls then lets see it instead of criticising a guy who has, if you can't do it , then STFU about the "mistakes", "Shit running of YOUR club" etc,etc ...WE are just fans with opinions DC put HIS money where we can't afford to , lets show the guy some appreciation, mistakes have been made by our chairman, but FFS , he's doing what none of us can , and if we could would ANY of us done better ...1at the end of all this shit (and the fact the EFL hate us) one simple thing remains ..
WAWAW
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If we still had Mandy we would be nowhere near to top and as you say would likely have been close to relegation. Chansiri’s mistake was possibly thinking he could get away with things or circumvent the rules, and back a few years ago he might have been able to. He has been badly advised, if he has any proper advisors at all, he needs to fix that.
But without him now we would go bust.
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(19-11-2019, 01:56)St Charles Owl Wrote: If we still had Mandy we would be nowhere near to top and as you say would likely have been close to relegation. Chansiri’s mistake was possibly thinking he could get away with things or circumvent the rules, and back a few years ago he might have been able to. He has been badly advised, if he has any proper advisors at all, he needs to fix that.
But without him now we would go bust.
Bl**dy Advisors !!.
No offence meant but as an engineer I put Accountants in the same bucket as Attorneys, Estate Agents and Used car salesman. Accounts always preface things with "it depends" and obviously in this case they forgot about the potential list of 'haters' we have. At this point I'd settle with a 12 point deduction and staying up with a major rebuild for next season.
I was so optimistic over the summer but what a sh*tstorm it's been since preseason. A good job the results have been good in spite of not playing exceptionally well and giving up points when we really shouldn't have.
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With Mandy we wouldn't have suffered 2seasons of Carlos nor more than 6 months of Joss ! We wouldn't have lost the final nor the derby game which incedently fucked a whole season up and still if having a rippling effect today ! Only yesterday bot bot we've got bannan wanker ..was bleating on about how hes such a useless twat and hates the blades !
We are doing ok ??? We were doing ok ! Under Stuart grey and beating Leeds 6-0 doing ok ? What a load of bollocks you talk !
And please please stop all this bollocks about building a team ffs at the end of this season we will still have 12 of the same dogshits on the books as we do today and the biggest one is Bannan the midfield dwarf ..so I don't see much change next season either !
You're xxxx deluded good look banging you're head against a brick wall !
And it's my club money or not ok ! He's xxxx useless and should do the decent thing and sell up we've suffered mistake after mistake it's not like it's just been this latest xxxx up ! It's been xxxx up after xxxx up after xxxx up after xxxx up !
The man is the only man chairman or whatever In the history of the replica kit that has managed to send a team on the pitch the first day with no new kit ffs it's beyond belief! And why Becuase he feeds you shit with how bad it would be for the club and he loves us ( bollocks) he was on his xxxx holidays while we were all contemplating suicide at the start of the season when bent nose the blade screwed us over ( something Mandy would never have done signing a blade up ) the season we are getting fucked for is also Kathryn thunder xxxx riegn aswell ! Why would you employ that is beyond belief ? Who incedently employed Joss beyond belief ! The poster over the back of that dogshite stand on leppings lane was another cheap plaster stuck over a massive gaping wound beyond belief! I'll post more tomorrow beyond belief chairman things it's getting boring stating the obvious to Muppets
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