[0762]

What still amazes me is the dismissal of all of this shit by many senior politicians, many of them insisting that it had no bearing on the referendum result of 2016. I'm listening to Labour's Shadow COE, John McDonald still sticking to the same line that there will be no rerun of the EU referendum. It's absolutely clear now that a remain vote would prevail and yet he's more interested in seeing a General Eletion. Hence Labour leaders have a political agenda rather than enforcing a democratic line on this whole brexit fiasco that has really pissed off millions of people within the British population - the intransigence is very irritating!

[hibeejim21]

Labour's stance on brexit is going to cost them any remaining chance of winning an election.

[0762]

The problem with that great possibility is that we'd see another shit Tory govt being reinstated and annoyingly we don't vote for them in Scotland AGAIN. So to many Scots who are reading this - DO NOT VOTE FOR THE LABOUR PARTY UP HERE AND CERTAINLY DON'T VOTE FOR THE SCOTTISH LABOUR PARTY AND THEIR PATRONISING LEADER, LEONARD,Yorkshire accent and all but definitely an imbecile, a political "lightweight" who sends out a consistent message that he is not the "brightest light in the house" when it comes to the Scot constitution, unionism and his hypocritical disregard for the Scot indy movement and demands compared with his stance on brexit!!

[St Charles Owl]

The problem with that great possibility is that we'd see another shit Tory govt being reinstated and annoyingly we don't vote for them in Scotland AGAIN. So to many Scots who are reading this - DO NOT VOTE FOR THE LABOUR PARTY UP HERE AND CERTAINLY DON'T VOTE FOR THE SCOTTISH LABOUR PARTY AND THEIR PATRONISING LEADER, LEONARD,Yorkshire accent and all but definitely an imbecile, a political "lightweight" who sends out a consistent message that he is not the "brightest light in the house" when it comes to the Scot constitution, unionism and his hypocritical disregard for the Scot indy movement and demands compared with his stance on brexit!!

Based on the last GE, you need to persuade Scottish voters to not vote Conservative rather than Labour!! The Tories won 13 seats in Scotland last time, if those seats had gone anywhere else then the Tories would not be in power today!!!

Labour are making so many mistakes through this whole Brexit fiasco, they should be positioning themselves in opposition to it going forward, this would surely give them a better chance of winning the next GE if that is their aim, but constantly being wish-washy with their message is killing them and making them irrelevant!!

[0762]

Do you really think I'm not aware of that very fact as well Saint Charles Owl!!!!!!???? Give me some respect when it comes to this political stuff north of the border!! The main reason there was such a slight upsurge in Tory fortunes up here was because of the opportunism exhibited on a clear mistake by Nicola Sturgeon in ever prematurely mentioning Scot Indy 2. The "chancers" used it as ammunition against the SNP and the Scot govt. Don't forget also the mass leafletting campaign (well hidden by the unionist Tories btw!!!) that was foisted on Scot voters all over Scotland and brokered through London/Westminster orchestrators of this shit at great cost - desperate eh but it worked to a degree because the Tories retained power!!!!!!! Did you also know that the Tories are currently no longer the second popular political party in Scotland because THEY HAVE BEEN SUSSED OUT BY LOTS OF THE UNSUSPECTING STUPID SCOT VOTERS WHO DON'T NORMALLY VOTE FOR THEM!!! It was absolutely crazy and the fall out and criticism of these people never died down for months because the Tories and toerag values are nothing short of being "scummy"! Colonel Davidson and her cohorts are back where they belong in Scottish politics and thankfully lessons have been learnt by the SNP and Scot indy movement after that last VE escapade! I want a massive "swing" of votes to the SNP and #### thre unionist alliance of Toerags, Labour and indeed their unionist Libdem pals!!

[St Charles Owl]

0762, I wasn’t having a go, just suggesting something!!!!!

[0762]

Sorry SCO! This subject really "hit a raw nerve" that so many Scots actually fell for the cheap tricks of the Scottish Tory party up here even 2 years after it occurred and it somehow gave Colonel Davidson the celebrity status that this blatant liar/"decepticon" never deserved TBH while massive attempts are continually deployed to try and undermine Nicola Sturgeon's position! A total joke and well orchestrated by the Tory govt and it's loyal RW press.

[0762]

And on the same subject re Scotland's FM, Channel 4 embroiled in a real "stooshie" after withdrawing Nicola's invitation to their big live tv debate re Brexit while there's always room for........yep, you've got it - NIGEL FARAGE!!!! One of the biggest instigators/decepticons of the Brexit fiasco and still picking up his EU salary and eventually will pick up his "generous" EU pension!! Nicola's invitation withdrawn after querying who was being invited to their Brexit gig. This is a bit like the Steve Bannon/bbc scenario although the FM withdrew from that one herself. Just replace Bannon with another sleekit but similar "chancer" like Farage - a political saboteur of the highest order who has done great damage to this country and there is more to come!

[hibeejim21]

We are reaching the crucial point now, if a deal is going to happen it's going to have to happen this week to allow the EU to call an emergency summit. If it drifts into December then it becomes very difficult to get it through parliament.

As ever the irish border remains the problem, and we know the EU and the republic wont accept a time limit on the backstop.

The EU have had a brexit "in name only" type deal there for may for some time now. Is she too politically weak to reach out and take it though ?

[0762]

It will prob set up the possibility of a General Election sooner rather than later!