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Stanley Milgram and The Windrush
#11
Interestingly whilst labour aren't to blame for the windrush immigration scandal,and it was definitely "on theresa's watch" this came to be, new labour didn't help by abstaining on the vote back in 2014. Well apart from a handful of labour MPs who voted against with the SNP.

Guess which ones ? Corbyn,mcdonnell,abbott,skinner. Ridiculed as "the awkward squad" but mostly part of the current front bench today, and they have been proven "spot on" with their concerns.

May's immigration policy seen as 'almost reminiscent of xxxx Germany' according to bob kerslake. God help the EU nationals after brexit.
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#12
IMO Kerslake and other reputable critics are 'spot on' re this government's involvement in deliberately 'stoking up' the fires of anti-immigration and creating a poisonous culture that is closely linked to the Brexit campaign. The Windrush fiasco was a consequence of this culture and the extreme Tory policies that morons like Saint Theresa promoted in parliament.
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#13
Margaret Thatcher made swingeing cuts to the Border Agency and Immigration Officers as I remember.

Apparently we do have a big problem with illegal immigration. It is not only a problem for those running the country, but also for those who are here illegally - it can turn them into slaves, force them into a life of permanent fear. Illegal immigration is bad for everyone. Proper, decent immigration policy humanely carried out with sufficient numbers and finance committed to it SHOULD be good for all.

Did you see the letters they send out? If you were deliberately designing something to look frightening and unreadable you could not do a better job. To frame a letter like that you'd be automatically casting the recipient as GUILTY! Why are Civil Servants trained to produce and duplicate letters that transmit their power and the recipient's weakness in the very lay-out and tone of a letter? Why can't they write properly? Why do tax letters for instance have to look and sound like tax letters? Why can't ONE government EVER just insist that its civil servants, who are after all acting on its behalf, treat the people who finance all this (you and me), like human beings? And why don't civil servants themselves insist that they become part of the 21st century, rather than the last bastions of colonialism?

Maybe if custom and practice were indeed to treat those with whom they deal as human beings, valuable clients maybe, even customers, then perhaps something like Windrushgate could never happen. It is surely because they cast individuals or groups as OTHER that they feel free to disregard the usual rules of human interaction. That goes for Mrs May, Amber Rudd, through the Civil Servant pressing the button to send off his standard threatening letter, to those who didn't even talk to people who said they'd been here fifty years ........ because it would surely have been very easy to see if their claims were true.

If you start out by communicating properly the rest comes easily, but all too often we bring in class, race, education etc and all too easily conclude we are dealing with someone who is not one of us.

SHAMEFUL IS THE WORD. RACIST AND SHAMEFUL.
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#14
Listening to the current Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, rambling on with the most unsatisfactory misleading explanations re Windrush and the Tory policy on immigration. Also IMO the real target is the previous Home Secretary, Saint Theresa May - a shambles!!!!
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#15
If only labour had some nice shiny blairite to hold the government to account over this scandal, but no they are all xxxx complicit and all abstained/voted for the immigration act 2014.

Corbyn, the SNP and a few others can at least hold their heads high and say they opposed this travesty.
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#16
British people don't need to prove they are British. The Windrush arrivals had spent their life being told they were British. Surprisingly they and their children did not think to collect and save four pieces of documentation for every year they remained after their arrival. I was born in Chesterfield, I started Nursery School before I was 4, that school is long gone. How would I prove I was in the country when I was 5? Would they believe my elder brother's testimony, or might they deport him too? Oh, but I momentarily forgot. I'm white, so I'm fine.

Mrs May wants to cloud the issue by talking about Labour and illegal immigration. Her policy was to root out, terrify, discriminate against and sometimes even deport black British people. If there were a god surely he'd strike her dead this Sunday morning? I've never heard anyone put forward an argument in favour of mass illegal immigration in this country, although it has certainly helped to enrich the United States.
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#17
Saint Theresa would be protected on Sunday morn because she'll be protected within the walls of her own church lol! Hypocrisy personified eh with shameless people like her, and others, at the forefront of this kinda charade!
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#18
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43944988
And unsurprisingly the 'decepticon' named Amber Rudd resigns after being exposed as a liar by new press allegations! So another 'remainer' is removed and Saint Theresa May definitely in a precarious position without one of her main protagonists.
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#19
'fibber rudd' falls on her sword.

A proper doing in the council elections later this week will pile the pressure on may.
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#20
St Theresa may soon be so exposed on all sides she'll be seeking the sanctuary of her church.
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