[drewks]

So this Berahino /drugs thing still rumbles on.
I'm a very patient, ordinary sort of a man, but I'd just like to say "fek off, grow up, and stop yer bloody whining " to Mark Hughes, and all the rest of the Stoke School of Whinging & Excuses

[Beefy 1965]

Stoke are like a load of School girls all running to a headmaster to tell tales,
Hughes has now said today Pulis phoned Shawcross on Monday to call him a loser,
This is now pathetic from Stoke,
Pulis later said he would be in touch with Shawcross about comments he made to Saido,

Grow uo guys move on ..
Next seasons fixtures should be interesting

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Press Association
10 FEBRUARY 2017 • 11:15PM
West Bromwich Albion manager Tony Pulis called Stoke City captain Ryan Shawcross a "loser" in a voicemail message following last weekend's Premier League clash between the clubs, Stoke's manager, Mark Hughes, has claimed.

Hughes says the defender, who was captain under Pulis at Stoke for several years, received the message from his former manager on Monday.

That was two days on from Stoke's 1-0 defeat at The Hawthorns, and the day after Shawcross was quoted as saying "someone from West Brom's side must have been speaking to the papers" regarding the way news emerged of Saido Berahino's ban from earlier in the season.

Berahino, who joined Stoke from West Brom last month, came on as a substitute against his old club less than 48 hours after it emerged the striker had served an eight-week Football Association ban.

Hughes did not receive a handshake from Pulis at the end of last weekend's game, and he spoke out about his fellow Welshman on Friday before Saturday's home match against West brom.

"We were annoyed with a number of things," Hughes said. "I was annoyed with their manager ringing up Ryan on the Monday morning after the game and calling him a loser. I wasn't too happy with that.

"Any number of things surrounding the game were, in our view, unnecessary. There was a voicemail left, and I haven't heard it. But Ryan wasn't too pleased. He tried to ring back and didn't get any answer."
Around the same time as Hughes' press conference, Pulis was holding his own to preview Albion's trip to West Ham, and was asked about Shawcross' comments that were published on Sunday.

Pulis did not mention anything about having contacted the player and leaving a voicemail, but did say: "Ryan has tried to ring me since that [the quotes on Berahino] and I will get back to him."

It had been reported by the Daily Mail last week that Berahino was handed his suspension after testing positive for a recreational drug in September.

Pulis on Friday appeared to confirm for the first time that Berahino, who joined Stoke having not played first-team football since September 10, was banned over drug use.

The West Brom boss said: "The disappointing thing was Saido coming out - when he moved - and saying how disappointed he was that he never played, and then Hughes saying the same thing. And both of them knew that he had been suspended.

"That was most probably the thing that irked John Williams, our chairman, more than anything else. Because we were really honest. There was never, ever going to be a deal done with Stoke without this football club telling them that Saido had been caught taking drugs. Never."

Hughes had previously said Stoke were not told about Berahino's ban until they approached West Brom about it during negotiations while Albion are adamant they did everything properly.

[Imre varadi]

Not sure what all the fuss is about as the player in question is shite ?

[BaggieSteve]

I'm sure the real facts - as opposed to the alternate facts - will never come out but, to be honest, it's hard to care. Pulis seems to get on with most of his fellow managers and is always supportive of them in what is a pretty precarious profession. In contrast, Hughes is the biggest moaner and whinger upon this earth, always complaining if his team is beaten, never recognising the performance of the opposition and usually blaming the referee. You can't help thinking that with their similar persecution complexes, Hughes and Berahino is a match made in heaven

[Baggievicar]

I'm sure the real facts - as opposed to the alternate facts - will never come out but, to be honest, it's hard to care. Pulis seems to get on with most of his fellow managers and is always supportive of them in what is a pretty precarious profession. In contrast, Hughes is the biggest moaner and whinger upon this earth, always complaining if his team is beaten, never recognising the performance of the opposition and usually blaming the referee. You can't help thinking that with their similar persecution complexes, Hughes and Berahino is a match made in heaven

Now, I'm not sure. I'd love to see a league table of managers based on moaning and whinging. I reckon Mourinho would take the title every time, with his persecution complex and general paranoia. But Hughes would certainly be in with a shout of a Champions League place.
Any others?

[drewks]

I'm sure the real facts - as opposed to the alternate facts - will never come out but, to be honest, it's hard to care. Pulis seems to get on with most of his fellow managers and is always supportive of them in what is a pretty precarious profession. In contrast, Hughes is the biggest moaner and whinger upon this earth, always complaining if his team is beaten, never recognising the performance of the opposition and usually blaming the referee. You can't help thinking that with their similar persecution complexes, Hughes and Berahino is a match made in heaven

Now, I'm not sure. I'd love to see a league table of managers based on moaning and whinging. I reckon Mourinho would take the title every time, with his persecution complex and general paranoia. But Hughes would certainly be in with a shout of a Champions League place.
Any others?

Sorry BV, I'm with Steve on this one; Mark Hughes is top of the Whinging Table for me! In fact he's streets ahead; IMO Mourhino does half of his griping for effect, but Hughes has got moaning, blaming others and general negativity down to a fine art. I bet he gives his cat a right kicking whenever they lose

[BaggieSteve]

I'm sure the real facts - as opposed to the alternate facts - will never come out but, to be honest, it's hard to care. Pulis seems to get on with most of his fellow managers and is always supportive of them in what is a pretty precarious profession. In contrast, Hughes is the biggest moaner and whinger upon this earth, always complaining if his team is beaten, never recognising the performance of the opposition and usually blaming the referee. You can't help thinking that with their similar persecution complexes, Hughes and Berahino is a match made in heaven

Now, I'm not sure. I'd love to see a league table of managers based on moaning and whinging. I reckon Mourinho would take the title every time, with his persecution complex and general paranoia. But Hughes would certainly be in with a shout of a Champions League place.
Any others?

Sorry BV, I'm with Steve on this one; Mark Hughes is top of the Whinging Table for me! In fact he's streets ahead; IMO Mourhino does half of his griping for effect, but Hughes has got moaning, blaming others and general negativity down to a fine art. I bet he gives his cat a right kicking whenever they lose

Well, I will concede, BV, that Mourinho would give anyone a run for their money but at least he has the occasional flashes of wit and cheekiness, whereas Hughes is a thoroughly git who has turned whinging into a art form.

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I'm sure the real facts - as opposed to the alternate facts - will never come out but, to be honest, it's hard to care. Pulis seems to get on with most of his fellow managers and is always supportive of them in what is a pretty precarious profession. In contrast, Hughes is the biggest moaner and whinger upon this earth, always complaining if his team is beaten, never recognising the performance of the opposition and usually blaming the referee. You can't help thinking that with their similar persecution complexes, Hughes and Berahino is a match made in heaven

Now, I'm not sure. I'd love to see a league table of managers based on moaning and whinging. I reckon Mourinho would take the title every time, with his persecution complex and general paranoia. But Hughes would certainly be in with a shout of a Champions League place.
Any others?

Sorry BV, I'm with Steve on this one; Mark Hughes is top of the Whinging Table for me! In fact he's streets ahead; IMO Mourhino does half of his griping for effect, but Hughes has got moaning, blaming others and general negativity down to a fine art. I bet he gives his cat a right kicking whenever they lose

Well, I will concede, BV, that Mourinho would give anyone a run for their money but at least he has the occasional flashes of wit and cheekiness, whereas Hughes is a thoroughly git who has turned whinging into a art form.

I missed out "miserable" before git but I'm sure you get the drift

[Salopbaggie]

I am starting to dread coming on the board and seeing that Berahino thread in bold, that sudden sinking feeling in the stomach alongside the thought FFS......... what now?

So to make myself feel better I thought time for some therapeutic play, what do you think? (Could not be bothered to line it up perfectly)

[HRK]

I would have gone with another word starting with W and ending with S, and it's not whiners!

[4evaabaggie]

Spurs fans have been mocking Berahino on Twitter ...... my favourite.

'A few years ago Berahino was developing along with Kane ...... today one got a hat trick the other just got fat quick.'

Another,

Berahino just left the field barely getting a kick of the ball ..... Kane left with the ball.