Another Scottish referendum is coming!!!

0762 · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2017, 16:00 by 0762.)

After finally listening today to the disrespectful anti Scotland comments to a really searching 'setting up' question from Angus Robertson re unified UK interests in exiting the EU, I think the choreography is almost over with Cruella de May and her Tory cohorts and I'll predict a move by the Scottish govt to push for another plebiscite on self-determination and it will be quite soon after we realise it's another 'carve up' by Tory c####!! We never got the promised Devomax model from Cameron and his shameful allied, unionist cronies anyway! So 'bring it on'! Thumb up

**themaclad** · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2017, 17:30 by themaclad.)

Given that your deficit per GDP is worse than Greece suggest you stick with the UK, Sturgeon won't call it as she knows she cannot win it. If she did win then you would not be allowed to join the EU as Spain and Austria have already poo pooed the idea. Your between the rock and a hard place, nowhere to go.
Just a prediction another Greek crisis is around the corner

Forgot to add the price of oil is about half what it once was, until that rockets she won't call it

0762 · 08-02-2017, 20:34

The 'oil factor' is one of the biggest 'red herrings' ever used by our political opponents from 2014 onwards and you are another one trying to pull that stunt as well as the GDP falsification!! Our oil revenue, even in it's peak, was a bonus and only comprised about 11% of GDP!! Rolleyes

There's a good chance that UK GDP could be like the Greek 'tragedy', post EU!!!

hibeejim21 · 08-02-2017, 21:35

The usual pish,straight from the daily mail.

No wonder englands in such a mess,they slavishly parrot the script from those who don't even have their best interests at heart.

**themaclad** · 08-02-2017, 22:06

No all facts gleaned from watching Scottish Parliament on 504, you have the highest unemployment in the UK, the lowest growth and the highest tax rate, the SNP are using the Brexit debate to deflect from their dire financial situation, by the way not having a pop at you lads all have different views.

0762 · (This post was last modified: 09-02-2017, 01:31 by 0762.)

Fair enough themaclad but I think you'll discover that a Scottish govt that is freed of all 'unionist economic shackles' really does have positive and proactive plans to push on economically - thankfully that plan was comprehensively compiled a few years ago and would effectively be 'fine tuned'! We live in a small country with a small population and it can be governed very well with proper inward investment and other proactive macro economic policies that embrace collective wealth, social inclusion and enhancing the pluralist society that is well established in Scotland as well as forging economic alliances elsewhere. It is achievable and the more Scots who stop reading a lotta the RW shit printed by daily rags like the Daily 'Tory' Mail, the better in sussing out a far more optimistic way forward than these 'scaremongering c#### keep implying!

**spireitematt** · 13-02-2017, 22:30

I can't see Scotland having another referendum and if you decide to vote for independence the EU won't allow you in and by the time they do it will probably be collapsed. I have nothing against Scotland or its people and I would like Scotland to stay in the union.

I'm pretty surprised that Scots read the Daily Mail and Express I thought they would have realised its right wing propaganda who seem to blame everything except the Tories.

hibeejim21 · (This post was last modified: 14-02-2017, 10:22 by hibeejim21.)

The EU wont be "collapsed"...that's another Murdoch/dacre myth. If anything,its the UK that will be collapsed. And you have no idea what the EUs stance on an independent Scotland would be until it actually happens.

I know full and well the daily mail is right wing propaganda,but its a very effective propaganda when you look at the lies they have peddled about the SNP and brexit. They will be pushing for Murdoch to be prime minister next, excuse me for wanting out.

There is zero opposition to the tories and the scots voted against brexit. Time to set a date for another referendum,its inevitable.

**spireitematt** · 14-02-2017, 17:52

(14-02-2017, 10:21)hibeejim21 Wrote: The EU wont be "collapsed"...that's another Murdoch/dacre myth. If anything,its the UK that will be collapsed. And you have no idea what the EUs stance on an independent Scotland would be until it actually happens.

I know full and well the daily mail is right wing propaganda,but its a very effective propaganda when you look at the lies they have peddled about the SNP and brexit. They will be pushing for Murdoch to be prime minister next, excuse me for wanting out.

There is zero opposition to the tories and the scots voted against brexit. Time to set a date for another referendum,its inevitable.

The EU will collapse eventually. We've left, If Le Pen wins in April or May she will be offering a referendum to the French people on the EU. If the Five Star Movement win in Italy they will be leaving the EU. Hungary want to leave and even the Dutch are looking at it as well.

Greece and Italy are in so much debt due to the Eurozone and the EU.

hibeejim21 · 14-02-2017, 21:12

In the vernacular of my motherland. "pish"