(05-08-2015, 17:56)BC Baggie Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 14:32)DanTheSmethwickMan Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 11:05)BC Baggie Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 08:47)DanTheSmethwickMan Wrote: I know, I never said what he did was right. Just making the point that I'd feel pretty annoyed if I was him too with the garbage we had and he wasn't even making the bench

By Garbage I presume you mean Gardener, McMannaman, Brunt , Morrison etc. All of whom created more and racked up more goals and assists than Sessegnon. 

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(05-08-2015, 11:05)Salopbaggie Wrote: I see the Marshall from Cardiff saga getting even more confusing with the font of all knowledge Howells now saying the offer and valuation being miles apart!! Two days ago he was saying, a price was all but agreed.

That however is not the confusing bit.  With a press release yesterday saying Fossy IS on course to be back by October and Marshall being banned for the first three games of the season anyway, would we really by a player just to provide cover for three games? I don't think so, do we need three number 1 keepers? probably not.

So what is going on

IMO Marshall will be No.1 until Foster is fully fit, and then will be his main challenge for the GK slot, with Myhill probably leaving on loan 

It's Gardner not Gardener...and are they wingers? Creative and take players on? Excite the fans when they get the ball.... Mcmanaman hardly played so for you to count him is stupid

Never said they were wingers, just that they are more creative than Sessegnon. As I said Sessegnon played constantly in the first half of the season and created nothing 

(05-08-2015, 18:06)Slick_Footwork Wrote: Sessegnon plays best as a second striker, essentially an attacking midfielder playing just off the forward, without any defensive duties.

Personally I'm a big fan of Sessegnon because he's tricky, carries the ball with pace and moves you up the pitch. While I'd agree that he's far from the finished article, he is the best dribbler in the squad and when you have players who carry a threat in one on one situations, that's when space opens up elsewhere. It also wins you your share of free kicks and corners which tends to be where we were most threatening last year.

Pulis appears to prefer 2 out and out strikers though, which does tend to make Sess' best role redundant. Arguably he's capable of playing on the wing too, but we can only speculate if it's his lack of defensive nounce or that he's a pretty poor professional (so I've been told) that is behind him being left out.

(05-08-2015, 18:06)DanTheSmethwickMan Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 17:56)BC Baggie Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 14:32)DanTheSmethwickMan Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 11:05)BC Baggie Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 08:47)DanTheSmethwickMan Wrote: I know, I never said what he did was right. Just making the point that I'd feel pretty annoyed if I was him too with the garbage we had and he wasn't even making the bench

By Garbage I presume you mean Gardener, McMannaman, Brunt , Morrison etc. All of whom created more and racked up more goals and assists than Sessegnon. 

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(05-08-2015, 11:05)Salopbaggie Wrote: I see the Marshall from Cardiff saga getting even more confusing with the font of all knowledge Howells now saying the offer and valuation being miles apart!! Two days ago he was saying, a price was all but agreed.

That however is not the confusing bit.  With a press release yesterday saying Fossy IS on course to be back by October and Marshall being banned for the first three games of the season anyway, would we really by a player just to provide cover for three games? I don't think so, do we need three number 1 keepers? probably not.

So what is going on

IMO Marshall will be No.1 until Foster is fully fit, and then will be his main challenge for the GK slot, with Myhill probably leaving on loan 

It's Gardner not Gardener...and are they wingers? Creative and take players on? Excite the fans when they get the ball.... Mcmanaman hardly played so for you to count him is stupid

Never said they were wingers, just that they are more creative than Sessegnon. As I said Sessegnon played constantly in the first half of the season and created nothing 

Fair enough, I obviously saw it different from you. Where I was sitting, in the first half of the season under Irvine, Sessegnon looked like creating something every time we went forward and looked about the only player to do so.

(05-08-2015, 18:06)Slick_Footwork Wrote: Sessegnon plays best as a second striker, essentially an attacking midfielder playing just off the forward, without any defensive duties.

Personally I'm a big fan of Sessegnon because he's tricky, carries the ball with pace and moves you up the pitch. While I'd agree that he's far from the finished article, he is the best dribbler in the squad and when you have players who carry a threat in one on one situations, that's when space opens up elsewhere. It also wins you your share of free kicks and corners, which tends to be where we were most threatening last year.

Pulis appears to prefer 2 out and out strikers though, which does tend to make Sess' best role redundant. Arguably he's capable of playing on the wing too, but we can only speculate if it's his lack of defensive nounce or that he's a pretty poor professional (so I've been told) that is behind him being left out.

(05-08-2015, 18:03)BaggyBomber Wrote: So is there an approved list of these position numbers?  Is it an FA coaching gobbledegook publication?  If it's FA approved, I wonder what are the chances of having this number printed in brackets next to the player number for the old folks like me and providing us with a conversion table along with a big explanation on what the bracketted numbered position player is supposed to be doing?  I suspect it might all be made up by people who've never kicked a ball trying to look clever.  What did you call it, Aries?

(05-08-2015, 18:13)BaggyBomber Wrote: Well, Slick, by the time you'd finished putting in all the caveats you just about agree with my opinion, that Sessegnon is pretty but ineffective or pretty ineffective.  I think TP probably sees him that way, too.

(05-08-2015, 19:08)May68 Wrote: aries I couldn't get statto.com to work. Are you sure that is the correct address?

(05-08-2015, 16:29)BaggyBomber Wrote:

(05-08-2015, 15:55)wba_1996 Wrote: Irvine played with a number 10, Sessegnon is the best number 10 at this club. Pulis doesn't, hence why Sess doesn't play and why we won't be signing any number 10's whilst Pulis is manager.

That is the point I was making and people are arguing for the sake of arguing.

As for missing out on Sako, we left him on the backburner in the hope of signing a better winger - if we fail to get in Phillips or whoever else Pulis rates as better than Sako then we will look very silly come the end of the window.

You state your opinions as unarguable facts and seem irritated when others don't concur.  I've given my opinion on Sessegnon.  That's one of the reasons for the existence of this type of website, I believe.

Also, in this particular instance I'm not sure what the number 10 point is that you are attempting to make.  Is not Anichebe no 10 and Sessegnon no 29?  Are you saying no 10 is a particular known standard playing position?  If so, what?

Whatever, it won't change my opinion on Sessegnon.  "All that glisters is not gold" as The Bard said.  He must have seen Sessegnon play.