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RE: Thread For Anything But Football - Imre varadi - 14-10-2016

CHEDWINS FOUND NOT GUILTY !!

So how many millions does he get then after having his life ruined ?


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - St Charles Owl - 14-10-2016

Not sure how the compensation works in a case Ike his. Blunts will be happy and be all over the club to sign him in January. I also wonder if Jean Hatchet will acknowledge his innocence as well??


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - Statesideowl - 14-10-2016

M Night Shayamalan. What a twist


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - Maddix - 14-10-2016

I was never sure about the original conviction anyway (can't be arsed to go into detail) but that's what we had to abide by.

I'm sure it could rumble on a bit more but at least we got a promotion out of it  Whistle or maybe the authorities will relegate us by 6 leagues as a punishment for the blunters missing out due to a lack of Chedwins goals Cool


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - Statesideowl - 15-10-2016

Don't get them thinking about suing again, Maddix. Laugh


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - St Charles Owl - 15-10-2016

I'm with you Maddix, the initial conviction always felt wrong based on the evidence that was reported. The whole premise of the conviction demonstrated a very small line between guilt and innocence in these situations. I am sure the North Wales police will take some stick over this, their initial investigation was because the girl reported she had lost her handbag and turned into a wrongful rape conviction!! The new evidence wasn't exactly earth shattering either but it did shed a different light into the normal actions of the girl involved, and that seemed to be enough.

He should now be completely allowed to continue his career, whether he will get back to the level of performance prior to all this remains to be seen. He is a very, very lucky man that his girlfriend stuck with him, at the very least his actions were proof of him being a scumbag, but ultimately not criminal!


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - peiowl - 15-10-2016

I disagree with all of you, but nothing new about that. The woman's past sexual history, her relations with her boyfriends, had no place in the court room and articles have been written about that aspect.

It's precisely because of how women who do report rape and sexual assault are victimized and pilloried in the law courts and in the court of public opinion that countless other women don't come forward and report them.

Trump and Cosby are prime examples of that and Evans, while a lesser light, epitomizes everything that is wrong with judicial systems that turn the victim into an offender.

So, I know you'll not like this, but I don't care. That's how I feel.


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - Imre varadi - 15-10-2016

so if lets say i killed 3 people and went on trial for a fourth killing then my past 3 killings wouldnt matter ? or lets say i robbed 3 banks and went on trial for a fourth then it wouldnt matter or maybe i bribed 3 people and went on trial for a fouth then it wouldnt matter ?

Yep youre talking out of it again Whistle

Anyway i coudnt give a monkeys bollocks about it one way or another there are worst things happening in the world i live in so realy this is feffing triva Whistle


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - St Charles Owl - 15-10-2016

(15-10-2016, 17:03)peiowl Wrote: I disagree with all of you, but nothing new about that. The woman's past sexual history, her relations with her boyfriends, had no place in the court room and articles have been written about that aspect.

It's precisely because of how women who do report rape and sexual assault are victimized and pilloried in the law courts and in the court of public opinion that countless other women don't come forward and report them.

Trump and Cosby are prime examples of that and Evans, while a lesser light, epitomizes everything that is wrong with judicial systems that turn the victim into an offender.

So, I know you'll not like this, but I don't care. That's how I feel.

I don't disagree with you on everything but currently the law does!! At the end of the day many of these sort of trials are based on one persons word against another with little to no evidence of outright positive proof of innocence or guilt!! Therefore inevitably the general character of both the accused and the accuser has to become part of any trial. In this one, the behaviour of the woman on that night was shown to be consistent with her behaviour a few nights earlier and less than two weeks after the Evans incident, that iformation surely does have some relevance in this case??


RE: Thread For Anything But Football - madsteve - 15-10-2016

(15-10-2016, 17:27)St Charles Owl Wrote:
(15-10-2016, 17:03)peiowl Wrote: I disagree with all of you, but nothing new about that. The woman's past sexual history, her relations with her boyfriends, had no place in the court room and articles have been written about that aspect.

It's precisely because of how women who do report rape and sexual assault are victimized and pilloried in the law courts and in the court of public opinion that countless other women don't come forward and report them.

Trump and Cosby are prime examples of that and Evans, while a lesser light, epitomizes everything that is wrong with judicial systems that turn the victim into an offender.

So, I know you'll not like this, but I don't care. That's how I feel.

I don't disagree with you on everything but currently the law does!!  At the end of the day many of these sort of trials are based on one persons word against another with little to no evidence of outright positive proof of innocence or guilt!!  Therefore inevitably the general character of both the accused and the accuser has to become part of any trial.  In this one, the behaviour of the woman on that night was shown to be consistent with her behaviour a few nights earlier and less than two weeks after the Evans incident, that iformation surely does have some relevance in this case??

Was it correct that the jury wasn't aware that two witnesses were offered £50k by Evans' fiancee to change their testaments for the latest trial?

Worse still perhaps, that the judge felt this was acceptable.

The latest re-trial doesn't prove Ched is innocent, only that on the balance of probability, there wasn't overwhelming proof of his guilt. The girl involved has never changed her testament, she has always said that she remembers nothing. The difference this time was that the jury believed his view that she was consenting.