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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 05-07-2016
And also look forward to the big economical question being answered: whether we actually lose out in the long term compared with being a European partner and sticking to the status quo! Most reputable economists reckon we will lose out but that will be the price of sovereignty!!! Also d'you think the 'have nots', who appear to have played a big part in forcing through this Brexit vote, will have alll their aspirations fulfilled 'now that they have their country back' - as many of these people put it!!! I don't think so and instead of pointing the accusing finger at the EU, they should be pointing it more appropriately at the UK govt!! Nuts!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - theo_luddite - 05-07-2016
Yeh, thanks fag ash Farage and all you other 'I'm just a working man baht a plan' tossers who have dumped us into an ever deepening shit hole of your making and you are all now bailing out faster rats getting off a sinking ship to leave the rest of us to sail SS Great Britain into the obviously great oblivion that awaits us. The lot of them were clueless as to what would happen if the referendum went their way as they all thought they'd lose by a fine margin rather than win by one and not one of the tossers had a plan to make Brexit actually work and now want to be around to face the flack that will obviously start to come their way. Watch the wankers come back out of their rat infested holes if the negotiations don't go the way they said they should, even though not one of them wants to be involved in those negotiations. If ever there was a need for a couple of drones with smart arsed weapons on the end of them to land on the grassy knolls of Parliament Square at just the right time .... now is the time. The shit would fly for miles, but then we've already all been covered in it anyway.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 21:07)0762 Wrote: And also look forward to the big economical question being answered: whether we actually lose out in the long term compared with being a European partner and sticking to the status quo! Most reputable economists reckon we will lose out but that will be the price of sovereignty!!! Also d'you think the 'have nots', who appear to have played a big part in forcing through this Brexit vote, will have alll their aspirations fulfilled 'now that they have their country back' - as many of these people put it!!! I don't think so and instead of pointing the accusing finger at the EU, they should be pointing it more appropriately at the UK govt!! Nuts!!
Lets be right 0762, the economic outlook for both options isn't rosy!!! The EU is suffering badly at the moment, I think due to over expansion, the Euro is and will face more pressure and unemployment is way too high in a lot of member countries. As you say though, the other option is completely unknown until we get the negotiation done.
Not sure who the "have nots" are, but I doubt anyone is expecting all their aspirations to be met by either side, at least I really hope not because it won't happen. Who else would you point the finger at? The referendum had only one question, in or out of the EU, no mention of in or out of the UK Government!! Besides the UK government was officially for staying in wasn't it, so I am not sure they would have spent the campaign pointing at themselves, although they didn't do much else to persuade people to vote to remain did they??
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 22:02)theo_luddite Wrote: Yeh, thanks fag ash Farage and all you other 'I'm just a working man baht a plan' tossers who have dumped us into an ever deepening shit hole of your making and you are all now bailing out faster rats getting off a sinking ship to leave the rest of us to sail SS Great Britain into the obviously great oblivion that awaits us. The lot of them were clueless as to what would happen if the referendum went their way as they all thought they'd lose by a fine margin rather than win by one and not one of the tossers had a plan to make Brexit actually work and now want to be around to face the flack that will obviously start to come their way. Watch the wankers come back out of their rat infested holes if the negotiations don't go the way they said they should, even though not one of them wants to be involved in those negotiations. If ever there was a need for a couple of drones with smart arsed weapons on the end of them to land on the grassy knolls of Parliament Square at just the right time .... now is the time. The shit would fly for miles, but then we've already all been covered in it anyway.
Spot on.
The smart people here are the Brexit leaders - Boris and Fart-face Farage are currently putting as much distance as possible between themselves and the referendum vote, even Gove is doing his best by using his personality as a means to avoid taking responsibility. I saw nigel being interviewed today on the beeb about UKIPs economic policy post brexit and he might as well have been asked about quantum physics.
£150 billion in quantitative easing already!! - almost double the amount that Brown/Darling had to rescue the economy with, and which cost them their jobs and Labour the government.
Even before brexit we were heading for the shit thanks to this shockingly bad government. I can't see how things are going to improve now.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 06-07-2016
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/christoph-waltz-brexit-nigel-farage-head-rat-eu-referendum-a7120156.html
Here's a great video of Christopher Waltz's opinion of Farage and his role in the Brexit fiasco - King Rat - priceless and some cutting criticisms to fling in his face as well as some for the Brexit farce that unfolded!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - spireitematt - 06-07-2016
1/3 of people who voted don't think we will actually leave in the end.
One thing I don't understand is MPs will be getting ready to break for there summer holidays. How can anyone go on holiday at this time?
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - spireitematt - 06-07-2016
A UK citizen who lives in Belgium and works as a civil servant for the European Commission has wrote a letter to every MP in Parliament asking them to ignore the referendum result and vote it down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3674789/EU-commission-staffer-writes-Tory-MP-demanding-votes-BLOCK-leaving-despite-country-backing-Brexit-historic-referendum.html
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 06-07-2016
I love the statement that effectively says the public are not educated enough or understand what they really want enough to be able to be trusted with a vote like this!! Typical of the elite who think they know more and are right about all of this!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 06-07-2016
What was the pressing need for this referendum ? Oh aye a rift in the tory party.
If the referendum had been fuelled by honest debate you could accept this turmoil that we are facing. But no the final push of our Referendum discussion was based on falsehoods, misinformation and already faulty impressions of the EU amped up by the media.
The authors of this shambles can have no respect for the electorate whatsoever. The big question I would like answered, is why have these people lied and covered up, argued against, what was obviously the truth, to get to this, obvious catastrophe which will get worse and worse and not benefit the people who were coerced into voting for it?
Always remember rupert murdochs comments about downing street doing what he wanted straight away,but brussels didn't even know who he was. Last weekend farage and fox were pictured at a party with murdoch.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 06-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 21:07)0762 Wrote: And also look forward to the big economical question being answered: whether we actually lose out in the long term compared with being a European partner and sticking to the status quo! Most reputable economists reckon we will lose out but that will be the price of sovereignty!!! Also d'you think the 'have nots', who appear to have played a big part in forcing through this Brexit vote, will have alll their aspirations fulfilled 'now that they have their country back' - as many of these people put it!!! I don't think so and instead of pointing the accusing finger at the EU, they should be pointing it more appropriately at the UK govt!! Nuts!!
Just wait til the food and petrol contracts start expiring,the food costs go up in the supermarket, the petrol costs rise, the imported gas, and other fuels we use in our petrol stations rise. Even goods made in the UK will go up in cost, because many raw materials are imported from the EU, or further afield, where transactions are made in dollars. And you can see today how the pound is v the dollar.
More importantly our wages have been stagnant since 2008,so i can see a lot of things going up in price 10/20 per cent as the pound slides.
Then we will see how these 'have nots' react, No wonder boris has run a mile.