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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - Amelia Chaffinch - 08-02-2019
Hear, hear, SCO
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 08-02-2019
(08-02-2019, 00:11)0762 Wrote: Anyway, back to "real time" and Corbyn presenting an "alternative plan" to the current one and the EU apparently "seizing on it" as an option to break the impasse. I wonder how certain members of his own Labour Party will make of it with its 5 demands!?
https://guce.oath.com/collectConsent?brandType=eu&.done=https%3A%2F%2Fm.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fjeremy-corbyn-soft-brexit-barnier_uk_5c5c8415e4b03afe8d657c23%3Fec_carp%3D5886530333378620986%26guccounter%3D1&sessionId=3_cc-session_c273eb29-d6c9-4bfd-8c4f-50a8af755eb7&lang=en-gb&inline=false
What I don't get about the Labour Party is why they have never taken the opposite stance to the Tories and campaigned for No Brexit?? I know Corbyn is a Euro-sceptic, albeit a mild one, but surely this is his chance to set himself and Labour truly apart from the Tories.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 08-02-2019
(08-02-2019, 00:27)St Charles Owl Wrote:(08-02-2019, 00:11)0762 Wrote: Anyway, back to "real time" and Corbyn presenting an "alternative plan" to the current one and the EU apparently "seizing on it" as an option to break the impasse. I wonder how certain members of his own Labour Party will make of it with its 5 demands!?
https://guce.oath.com/collectConsent?brandType=eu&.done=https%3A%2F%2Fm.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fjeremy-corbyn-soft-brexit-barnier_uk_5c5c8415e4b03afe8d657c23%3Fec_carp%3D5886530333378620986%26guccounter%3D1&sessionId=3_cc-session_c273eb29-d6c9-4bfd-8c4f-50a8af755eb7&lang=en-gb&inline=false
What I don't get about the Labour Party is why they have never taken the opposite stance to the Tories and campaigned for No Brexit?? I know Corbyn is a Euro-sceptic, albeit a mild one, but surely this is his chance to set himself and Labour truly apart from the Tories.
I think a sense of realism is needed. It is very highly likely we will leave the EU now, one way or another. I think it is better Politics for Corbyn to be seen as the man who put himself behind the least damaging Brexit, rather than the man who blocked Brexit.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 08-02-2019
(08-02-2019, 01:02)hibeejim21 Wrote:(08-02-2019, 00:27)St Charles Owl Wrote:(08-02-2019, 00:11)0762 Wrote: Anyway, back to "real time" and Corbyn presenting an "alternative plan" to the current one and the EU apparently "seizing on it" as an option to break the impasse. I wonder how certain members of his own Labour Party will make of it with its 5 demands!?
https://guce.oath.com/collectConsent?brandType=eu&.done=https%3A%2F%2Fm.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fjeremy-corbyn-soft-brexit-barnier_uk_5c5c8415e4b03afe8d657c23%3Fec_carp%3D5886530333378620986%26guccounter%3D1&sessionId=3_cc-session_c273eb29-d6c9-4bfd-8c4f-50a8af755eb7&lang=en-gb&inline=false
What I don't get about the Labour Party is why they have never taken the opposite stance to the Tories and campaigned for No Brexit?? I know Corbyn is a Euro-sceptic, albeit a mild one, but surely this is his chance to set himself and Labour truly apart from the Tories.
I think a sense of realism is needed. It is very highly likely we will leave the EU now, one way or another. I think it is better Politics for Corbyn to be seen as the man who put himself behind the least damaging Brexit, rather than the man who blocked Brexit.
I agree, just makes him the best of a bad bunch in reality though!! I also wonder if he has put this together knowing May is unlikely to support it and then we will see if he will indeed change the partys position to one demanding a new referendum.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 08-02-2019
(08-02-2019, 01:18)St Charles Owl Wrote:(08-02-2019, 01:02)hibeejim21 Wrote:(08-02-2019, 00:27)St Charles Owl Wrote:(08-02-2019, 00:11)0762 Wrote: Anyway, back to "real time" and Corbyn presenting an "alternative plan" to the current one and the EU apparently "seizing on it" as an option to break the impasse. I wonder how certain members of his own Labour Party will make of it with its 5 demands!?
https://guce.oath.com/collectConsent?brandType=eu&.done=https%3A%2F%2Fm.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fjeremy-corbyn-soft-brexit-barnier_uk_5c5c8415e4b03afe8d657c23%3Fec_carp%3D5886530333378620986%26guccounter%3D1&sessionId=3_cc-session_c273eb29-d6c9-4bfd-8c4f-50a8af755eb7&lang=en-gb&inline=false
What I don't get about the Labour Party is why they have never taken the opposite stance to the Tories and campaigned for No Brexit?? I know Corbyn is a Euro-sceptic, albeit a mild one, but surely this is his chance to set himself and Labour truly apart from the Tories.
I think a sense of realism is needed. It is very highly likely we will leave the EU now, one way or another. I think it is better Politics for Corbyn to be seen as the man who put himself behind the least damaging Brexit, rather than the man who blocked Brexit.
I agree, just makes him the best of a bad bunch in reality though!! I also wonder if he has put this together knowing May is unlikely to support it and then we will see if he will indeed change the partys position to one demanding a new referendum.
Ultimately what he's doing is the right thing, the tories need to reach out now and make concessions to labour to get their deal through.
If it's as you suggest, then its a strategic move which then ticks the box that he has done his best to 'engage constructively' and is then free to pursue his own agenda... Which as you point out could involve pushing for a new referendum
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 08-02-2019
Aye! If this ploy fails then it is as suggested by SCO and agreed as an end option at the last Labour Party conference - push for another referendum.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 08-02-2019
https://www.thejournal.ie/brexit-ireland-uk-backstop-poll-4483026-Feb2019/
The UK's reputation damaged? That is an understatement!! The UK is a f###### "laughing stock", pure n simple, and the reasons why are perfectly clear after over two years of the biggest farce I've ever witnessed in my life time and proof that the British parliament is full the most "lightweight" politicians ever seen in the history of this institution plus it is also riddled with an element of devious "scum" who finally got the opportunity to find an "audience" to peddle their shameless bull shit.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - WBA-Josh - 09-02-2019
The comedy continues.
https://bbc.in/2DlBEum
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 09-02-2019
(09-02-2019, 14:39)WBA-Josh Wrote: The comedy continues.
https://bbc.in/2DlBEum
This has been a disaster capitalists wet dream from Day 1.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 09-02-2019
Ha ha ha ha
Refer back to my previous thread #1327 and that is a good summary of the shit heids who are attempting to govern this country and deal with Brexit. Wasting public money like confetti!! Give me a national emergency government asap!!