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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 15-11-2018
(15-11-2018, 02:07)hibeejim21 Wrote: There won't be a general election i feel, the tories are in no shape to fight one.
For all my frustration with corbyn his tactics have won through, he has may by the proverbials. What does he do next though ? What concessions can he force from her at this late hour ?
If there is a vote of no confidence and that vote does not go her way, wouldn't that force a GE? Or would the DUP cave and stick with her despite the Irish border question issues they have? I would assume they are enjoying their moment in the limelight!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 15-11-2018
(15-11-2018, 04:19)St Charles Owl Wrote:(15-11-2018, 02:07)hibeejim21 Wrote: There won't be a general election i feel, the tories are in no shape to fight one.
For all my frustration with corbyn his tactics have won through, he has may by the proverbials. What does he do next though ? What concessions can he force from her at this late hour ?
If there is a vote of no confidence and that vote does not go her way, wouldn't that force a GE? Or would the DUP cave and stick with her despite the Irish border question issues they have? I would assume they are enjoying their moment in the limelight!!
The DUP are a bunch of bigots and flat earthers who should be having zero influence on the people of britain's future regarding this issue. They barely have 300k votes to their name. Of course now they know that may has taken the only possible path she could and arranged a backstop with no time limit that effectively ends with them in a separate arrangement to the UK they are going tonto. I think its fair to say relations between them and the gov have taken a turn for the worse, but I cant see them help corbyn in any way either.
A leadership challenge seems likely now, but I'm not sure at all that the brexiters have the numbers to defeat may.
It looks like may has offered corbyn a chance to add amendments to her deal before the final vote to try and push it over the line, but whether that could work or not or how the EU would view it I don't know !
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - WBA-Josh - 15-11-2018
Another one bites the dust.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/nov/15/brexit-deal-theresa-may-takes-agreement-to-parliament-politics-live
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 15-11-2018
(15-11-2018, 11:28)WBA-Josh Wrote: Another one bites the dust.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/nov/15/brexit-deal-theresa-may-takes-agreement-to-parliament-politics-live
So even the idiot who negotiated this deal doesn't want anything to do with it. Brilliant stuff josh.
mcvey gone as well.
Constitutional crisis time.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 15-11-2018
McVey, the DWP Minister, also resigns! The House of Cards starting to collapse eh!?
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 15-11-2018
May won't get this deal to parliament I think, she is going to be taken down before then.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - ritchiebaby - 15-11-2018
It's squeaky bum time with a very public game of chicken being played out by May, Tory rebels, Opposition parties, the DUP, the EU and Uncle Tom Cobley. Hopefully it will be over quickly, but there's no guarantee of that.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 16-11-2018
Think the game of chicken is over now Ritchie. It is what it is and the PM has waited until there is literally no time to do anything else. 2 years of posturing and deliberate time wasting to get us to this point.
May's deal (a brexit in name only deal devised by barnier) or no deal/WTO with boris or some other loonjob.
The last 29 months has been one massive waste of time, effort and waste of public resources brought about purely because of historical infighting in the Tory party, its brought into stark relief just how divided and misinformed the UK populace are. The UK media are an absolute disgrace, no wonder the EU officials were slating them last month.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 16-11-2018
I still think that six words in her parliamentary speech were more significant than many people realised - OR THERE WILL BE NO BREXIT!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 17-11-2018
And yet even now, although the votes been proven to have been corrupted, and it isn't binding on parliament....may still ploughs on.
Anyone who seriously pushes for a no deal scenario is for the watching..