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Blair didn't get Murdoch on board...it was the other way around.

Most of this generation of tories are as much children of Blair as they are Thatcher. And we are going back to that same managed democracy system. What exactly are labour offering anyway ? A more competent version of the tories pretty much, and that will serve the purpose of the establishment for the time being, hence the easy ride Starmer is getting from the media (contrast with corbyn)

Starmer is holding Corbyn responsible for an outcome that his own factional allies worked frantically to bring about so they could regain control of the party. Sorry but that just isn't right. It makes me wonder what else Starmer is capable of doing to us as PM if he can do something like that.

He is still ruling out any move towards the single market or the customs union, all in the name of winning back former Labour voters in the mythical “red wall.” This is not the behaviour of a man who believes that Corbyn was the main problem for Labour in 2019. After all he spent huge energy pushing for a 2nd referendum then whipped labour MPs to vote for Boris's deal.

I don't trust the xxxx one bit. He's a snake.


"Even if Corbyn stands as an Independent and wins - which way is he going to vote in The Commons? With Labour or with The CONservatives?"

He will win, he is one of the most popular constituency MPs out there.
I'd imagine that his votes should be to demonstrate that the policies starmer PM enacts will range from inadequate to malevolent in their impact on Britain’s social crisis. And that will be a powerful thing from a former leader.